Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78443 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48711 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2014 11:56:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Oct 2014 11:56:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=julienpauli@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=julienpauli@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: julienpauli@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.52 mail-qg0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.52] ([209.85.192.52:59454] helo=mail-qg0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D7/10-46918-8D5D0545 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:56:08 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a108so2100716qge.11 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 04:56:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=bJ3XuKdO/21yq1XF09WJMALctrBmYlIm/LfyD751q28=; b=vGPjO6f3gWkr0Ec+0a9RMba2PgSfwMO9P+Y2jEY1nnYgTluRGMBhh/1keaWe6kOSIa yNMLoVo8mdfC53QfvNsbpsBgylPJ9nkZBxuFcMIGibxp8zzR3CJgbullNZS22zPYZlHU 8bOzoHMkdyKfcrcypVBNQZ/AySM9PyNfsksmooYLC+PTeurCfqIrVRhYeR5re1h/04n9 5ayC6H8xYevGtUojrPioH55oxfNhkar0xc96+/uNhJF0vDWSkAuNepKAG3taWxeD58cS fj/kujCdZohiAa5JLnO3ce2aSVEk6Ikvjha+MmicvJUSUVsJ0gl9DiBD0kw7TZgcMenO 5i9g== X-Received: by 10.140.30.98 with SMTP id c89mr13998976qgc.90.1414583765257; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 04:56:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: julienpauli@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.20.86 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2014 04:55:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5450284B.1060601@gmail.com> References: <1414217636.2624.89.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5450284B.1060601@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:55:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7WmmGzEnyNLjXEF9hJPXFKR42rw Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: David Soria Parra , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG nonsense (Was: Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: Made phpdbg compatible with new engine: ...) From: jpauli@php.net (Julien Pauli) On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> phpdbg is under php.net ; every decision about phpdbg should then be >> debatted with all the team, and new ideas, such as a protocol, RFC'ed, >> whoever are the maintainers of the code. It's like that for every >> piece of code, of every extension. This is PHP process. If you dont >> want to > Do I understand it right that after all we've being discussing here > about not putting big new stuff into PHP without discussion, we've got > new stuff in phpdbg now merged not only to master but into the stable > branch of 5.6? Am I missing something here? If you are talking about the phpdbg new debugging protocol : this is right. I think it clearly lacks discussion, RFC, concensus here, particularly regarding the choice of the protocol. We must absolutely use something open and efficient. Using a closed protocol, that only one editor would be able to implement ; is just a no-go ; for example. Julien.P