Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78429 Return-Path: <tyra3l@gmail.com> Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62511 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2014 14:18:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Oct 2014 14:18:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.51 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.51 mail-qg0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.51] ([209.85.192.51:33599] helo=mail-qg0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6B/86-21571-CA5AF445 for <internals@lists.php.net>; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:18:21 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id j5so536225qga.24 for <internals@lists.php.net>; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:18:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=P4SyUzh32eyT4A9By/AOIL65Eu3GeF5v799gM42bTwc=; b=fMW0i9YRi/addxwFjvd3vcWB6a8LYWDt/IR6/Swa4ZzLFRXu2t28rhq+o9BkWIaKkR 6QF36wP7l1lp5awlJXEqJnQ0QPU/yxhOnR5UR9L+BeQ1+ngrJN0KQJ7p3/LrYBChRLFd lCyr8eoO2Uws7kfW7kxyuTk3vJGaO1acgbATo7E3isfXurq8MCXl9Ii2YhDmpoIlYAL8 QnPH1OtTGb+tCbC1lJUYX7/AWq6y0pwgdUQkSCHhmNdDwHTHd9It8m5B31QRF5MJm9QX QtHXe+LPBHvZDHOfbaZH0OjzZUfP3Gh6xabuCyLFR+Qt79U1983jhbsxAPQUI34djsEz RNFg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.132.70 with SMTP id a6mr5445593qat.16.1414505897979; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.93.47 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:18:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <544C9E98.1000409@php.net> References: <php-mail-d1dee1060d0e519b421e241f31037078549681831@git.php.net> <alpine.DEB.2.11.1410242103530.4012@whisky.home.derickrethans.nl> <1414217636.2624.89.camel@localhost.localdomain> <CAEZPtU70tZLPxhX-swOhRKH1h=ALvJxodpSGA4yCm9tBWA4cjA@mail.gmail.com> <1414229963.2624.103.camel@localhost.localdomain> <CAEZPtU7N8rJRRj3YWOYE5rx4bZfvWWybdhr4U+Ua7utCb7O+vw@mail.gmail.com> <BLU436-SMTP18776034F3EACCDC8519BA3E2900@phx.gbl> <544BE9FE.3030603@sugarcrm.com> <544C9E98.1000409@php.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:18:17 +0100 Message-ID: <CAH-PCH4UM0mYc7yrsU0qMNxKvFFLZHcoXdjOTfzkot0YJjY9zA@mail.gmail.com> To: Sebastian Bergmann <sebastian@php.net> Cc: PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2bc2494f7c505067c512c Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG nonsense (Was: Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: Made phpdbg compatible with new engine: ...) From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --001a11c2bc2494f7c505067c512c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Sebastian Bergmann <sebastian@php.net> wrote: > Am 25.10.2014 um 20:20 schrieb Stas Malyshev: > > somewhat relaxed rules there, but even then introducing new debugging > > protocol into PHP core seems to be something that warrants some > > notification. > > That would have been my next question. I think it does not only > warrant notification but adherence to the RFC process. > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > As far as I can tell there are a couple of SAPIs(to be honest everything except cli/cgi/fpm/embed and apache*) and even some exts(like mysql*, pgsql, date, pcre, etc.) where there are dedicated maintainers who seemingly can introduce new features without discussing it on the list or following through the rfc process. I'm not saying that this is a bad thing(on the contrary, I think that most of the times this happens because the maintainer is the best suited for making those decisions), but I think it would be nice if we could clarify that what exact procedures do we want to be followed for exts/SAPIs inside the php-src tree. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --001a11c2bc2494f7c505067c512c--