Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78424 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54410 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2014 14:01:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Oct 2014 14:01:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=julienpauli@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=julienpauli@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: julienpauli@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.42 mail-qa0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.42] ([209.85.216.42:41687] helo=mail-qa0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 25/B4-21571-FA1AF445 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:01:20 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id cs9so484680qab.15 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:01:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7fRn3dEqdjjffoK1zMLJUK2Ighj/brwA2/wQ5/ouZ74=; b=u/soqzdJx3azihSrNpCD/diTgghEbuFWj7YpyjQNprZcUdUOs4RVkaaCgpOQpbGNLN PvA8/Oql5p3tHpk1cqp9FMkNK2dHJAyrlBnpxRZRfIwZxnIqR6lItMQpTkFzezH9oNhl j1M4zteYQiJ184/OR4Zm8LWsNCW7FF8UtMEOyO+u24RxCZzgEuwjamVt56xSUd1bPOx9 2WyPamd12Ojx4pCnKpH+AnLdSOsjMLVWVtOvz6ad6diy0oNmf0j1NNeEfq+9W+Z1qNOv ipSLRwBRZQx5wZgrslGZQXYSKQln+tVFBbBMpr8DcuyUggkI+T37jf8yilGhcdn03T5B sNTw== X-Received: by 10.140.30.98 with SMTP id c89mr4954754qgc.90.1414504875736; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:01:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: julienpauli@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.20.86 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 07:00:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <13B36463-CF72-4531-A5AA-8DCF85E40077@ajf.me> References: <1414217636.2624.89.camel@localhost.localdomain> <13B36463-CF72-4531-A5AA-8DCF85E40077@ajf.me> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:00:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: OYAc10qCNWwPZNIJAPNgTcpduPU Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: David Soria Parra , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG nonsense (Was: Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: Made phpdbg compatible with new engine: ...) From: jpauli@php.net (Julien Pauli) On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > >> On 28 Oct 2014, at 13:43, Julien Pauli wrote: >> >> When PHP 5.6 has been released, few weeks/months ago, I explicitely >> stated Ferenc (RMing 5.6 together with me), that *it is not a normal >> thing to have an external domain for phpdbg* >> >> This has never happened before, FWIR >> >> Every code that is part of PHP, that is merged into php.net repo , >> falls under the PHP licence *and* the PHP process of doing things. >> >> One chance is that today the subject shows to everybody and not only >> RM wondering about this. Cool. >> I'm all +1 to merge phpdbg web site content into official php.net docume= ntation. >> >> Guys, from an external POV, phpdbg seems very strange for people. Why >> the hell does it have its own github repo and its own website ? This >> is something that has never been seen for *official* php.net content >> and our users are asking questions / assuming things. > > Yeah, I agree this is weird. There=E2=80=99s nothing wrong with keeping a= round the github repo to provide phpdbg for older PHP versions, but the mai= n site should on php.net and it shouldn=E2=80=99t tell the user to go anywh= ere but php.net. Yes, this has been like that since the beggining of the PHP project. The PHP project is a human, collaborative open source adventure before anything else. The code and the ideas written behind php.net are collaborative and owned by everyone. Julien.P