Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78339 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22307 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2014 15:12:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Oct 2014 15:12:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 198.187.29.245 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 198.187.29.245 imap11-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [198.187.29.245] ([198.187.29.245:49164] helo=imap11-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 49/7A-36207-34F0D445 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:12:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EE18800F8; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:12:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap11.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap11.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id qSkeswIuPMsK; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oa-res-26-28.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-28.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD1C78800E7; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.0 \(1990.1\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:11:57 +0000 Cc: Joe Watkins , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <1414217636.2624.89.camel@localhost.localdomain> To: Derick Rethans X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1990.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG nonsense (Was: Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: Made phpdbg compatible with new engine: ...) From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) > On 26 Oct 2014, at 15:09, Derick Rethans wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Joe Watkins wrote: >=20 >> On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 23:06 -0400, Derick Rethans wrote: >>=20 >> A few weeks ago, I was at a conference where you told a room filled=20= >> with hundreds of developers that phpdbg was no good, because you = don't=20 >> know how to use it. >=20 > I was being polite. I should have told them it is useles for any of = our=20 > users, instead of blaming it (wrongly) on my own ineptitude. Perhaps you could=E2=80=99ve actually talked about its benefits. I went = to that talk too. You showed off stuff vld can do=E2=80=A6 and neglected = to mention that phpdbg could do the same things.=20 -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/