Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78315 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54154 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2014 19:15:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Oct 2014 19:15:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.45 mail-wg0-f45.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.45] ([74.125.82.45:56478] helo=mail-wg0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8D/A0-50727-C45AA445 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:15:25 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id l18so1739223wgh.4 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:15:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ok58r4LMXeZ2It1K3ugQ2SbgON2SSQTAAjALHGlTyAs=; b=gku6YBUX3zlStTgmQOUcrGHkLlhWWOAb6QGnxQIs5ZerXp0/q23jJVM6yaaVucUbCo 47CQZaoV+wCvxemNRmc3nRlwHoLi80pSj+cx2FrHljfl+pBirJUspOc8+9P4//rcG3L8 P6CVCtMKG5ShpXINzzM/aWzyX+Jf7B6wEuy3glHzZxnZbqGfNtBLgbI3J4kNFPh5c/yE dY5SfEurm5fRvvNdhs0VNWDJnCQXIw3VAmx8peqWa2GiA2lKK6+kzGDIrBqCQWDEMk8A O1T5OC6JgsDkoNb11QuB/Oa9zKIyyo45y1CnsDlWdR3ghW5kQk37WRIrUI0T1adPPl6z pK3A== X-Received: by 10.194.21.106 with SMTP id u10mr5022098wje.109.1414178120551; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.177] ([62.189.198.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bi7sm2951504wib.17.2014.10.24.12.15.19 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <544AA546.1010805@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 20:15:18 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Thoughts on the PHP.net website From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) Daniel Ribeiro wrote on 24/10/2014 19:52: > *Disclaimer: *I wanted to bring this discussion inside the internals > mailing list not only because of the fact that the PHP.net website's source > code on GitHub doesn't have issues enabled, but especially because I think > it's part of the PHP environment, just like the spec or the actual C code > itself. In case you hadn't seen it already, there's a list of all the mailing lists for PHP here: http://php.net/mailing-lists.php In this case, I would have thought either php.webmaster or php.doc would be more appropriate than php.internals, which really does tend to focus on the internal implementation of the language, rather than how it used or documented. Meanwhile, I agree with both Kris and Andrea's responses: you need to be specific about what problems you propose to fix, and you need to be extremely wary of breaking existing functionality just because it's "interesting" or "modern". Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]