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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 7.0 timeline
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

hi Zeev,

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
> All,
>
>
>
> We=E2=80=99ve had some discussions about it during the version name & php=
ng RFC
> processes, and now that 5.6.0 is behind us =E2=80=93 I think it=E2=80=99s=
 time to get a
> more concrete game plan for PHP 7.0.
>
>
>
> I drafted an RFC that proposes a one year timeline for PHP 7.0.  I believ=
e
> it strikes a good balance between early delivery to stay competitive, and
> having enough time to shape a major version.  Given that we=E2=80=99ve al=
ready made
> some very substantial progress towards 7.0 (with phpng, AST, uniform
> variable syntax, etc.) =E2=80=93 I think that timeline is very realistic,=
 and
> perhaps we can even beat it.  Restating the obvious, new features that
> don=E2=80=99t have compatibility implications can always be delivered in =
minor
> versions, i.e. 7.1, 7.2, etc.
>
>
>
> The RFC is at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline  - comments welcome!

So I have to say (again) that one year is too short. We discussed 1.5
year as a good realistic timeline and that's what I am going to
propose using a competitve RFC today, unless you are willing to add
the options to this RFC (would be easier). The need of a 5.7 release
is also something we need to decide.

I am not saying we cannot make it in less than 1.5 year, but one year,
given the current status, is not realistic.  Given that the engine is
still  a moving target, it is not realistic, fair nor correct to ask
other developers to get their stuff done by 2015/1 or 2015/2, it is
simply not the way I see cooperation and support for other php.net
developers.


Cheers,
--=20
Pierre

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