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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 7.0 timeline
From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)

On 10/14/2014 05:20 PM, Tjerk Meesters wrote:
> 
> On 15 Oct 2014, at 01:24, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/14/2014 10:14 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>> IMO,  AST, INT64, NG, Uniforme variables style is enough for a new
>>>> marjor version.. why we still need to wait?
>>>
>>> We don't need to just "wait", as sit and do nothing. We need to allocate
>>> time for other features.
>>
>> There are also quite a few really low-level changes in master right now.
>> It is going to take quite a bit of time to stabilize. For example,
>> something as basic as array iteration is inadvertently different:
>>
>>  https://bugs.php.net/68215
> 
> This is a known issue for which the test cases were marked as XFAIL because of the amount of work involved to get it fixed:
> 
> https://github.com/php/php-src/commit/5831cca9576f4e0d4daed75a9915d436dfc5f4e5

Yes, I am aware of that. I was using it to illustrate the point that
even with the changes currently in master, never mind any new things we
might add, we have a lot of work left to do before we are anywhere near
ready for a release.

-Rasmus