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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New globals for PUT and DELETE
From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)

On 10/14/2014 09:15 AM, Mike Dugan wrote:
> On October 14, 2014 at 11:57:26 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf (rasmus@lerdorf.com
> <mailto:rasmus@lerdorf.com>) wrote:
>> On 10/14/2014 06:29 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote:
>> >  
>> > On 14 Oct 2014, at 14:27, Kristopher <kristopherwilson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >  
>> >> $_HTTP_REQUEST_BODY and $_HTTP_QUERY_STRING for nostalgia's sake.
>> >  
>> > Ew, non-superglobals.
>> >  
>> > But $_REQUEST_BODY and $_QUERY_STRING are a bit lengthy. Perhaps $_QUERY (for $_GET) and $_BODY (for $_POST)? Then the variable set finally makes sense, but isn’t too long:
>> >  
>> > * $_QUERY   - query string parameters
>> > * $_BODY    - request body parameters
>> > * $_REQUEST - query string and request body parameters
>> >  
>> > Makes more sense than $_GET and $_POST.
>> >  
>> > Any objections?
>>
>> It makes no sense to me to make $_BODY an alias for $_POST. $_POST
>> implies the default body encoding that a broswer performs on a POST
>> request. Making an alias called $_BODY that doesn't contain the body of
>> a request unless it is "POST"-encoded would be super confusing.
>>
>> I think the pedantry level around this is rather high. Nobody is
>> actually confused about $_GET and $_POST and how and when to use them.
>> Adding vague aliases adds confusion to something that had no confusion
>> before.
>>
>> -Rasmus
>>
>>
> For clarity, $_BODY was revised to $_FORM.
> 
> I think there was some misunderstanding of the usage of $_GET earlier in
> this thread, although I may have misunderstood someone’s wording.
> Regardless, if I go out and sample 100 PHP folks, I’m fairly confident
> someone would make the association that either $_GET or $_POST is bound
> strictly to the HTTP verb of the same name. Adding aliases gives these
> vars a more semantic name while not causing a massive BC breakage. 

I think 20+ years of history has proven this to be a non-issue. Of all
the things that people get confused by in PHP, $_GET/$_POST are right
near the bottom of the list.

-Rasmus