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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New globals for PUT and DELETE
From: mike@mjdugan.com (Mike Dugan)

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On October 14, 2014 at 11:57:26 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf (rasmus=40lerdorf.com)=
 wrote:
On 10/14/2014 06:29 AM, Andrea =46aulds wrote: =20
> =20
> On 14 Oct 2014, at 14:27, Kristopher <kristopherwilson=40gmail.com> wro=
te: =20
> =20
>> =24=5FHTTP=5FREQUEST=5FBODY and =24=5FHTTP=5FQUERY=5FSTRING for nostal=
gia's sake. =20
> =20
> Ew, non-superglobals. =20
> =20
> But =24=5FREQUEST=5FBODY and =24=5FQUERY=5FSTRING are a bit lengthy. Pe=
rhaps =24=5FQUERY (for =24=5FGET) and =24=5FBODY (for =24=5FPOST)=3F Then=
 the variable set finally makes sense, but isn=E2=80=99t too long: =20
> =20
> * =24=5FQUERY - query string parameters =20
> * =24=5FBODY - request body parameters =20
> * =24=5FREQUEST - query string and request body parameters =20
> =20
> Makes more sense than =24=5FGET and =24=5FPOST. =20
> =20
> Any objections=3F =20

It makes no sense to me to make =24=5FBODY an alias for =24=5FPOST. =24=5F=
POST =20
implies the default body encoding that a broswer performs on a POST =20
request. Making an alias called =24=5FBODY that doesn't contain the body =
of =20
a request unless it is =22POST=22-encoded would be super confusing. =20

I think the pedantry level around this is rather high. Nobody is =20
actually confused about =24=5FGET and =24=5FPOST and how and when to use =
them. =20
Adding vague aliases adds confusion to something that had no confusion =20
before. =20

-Rasmus =20


=46or clarity, =24=5FBODY was revised to =24=5F=46ORM.

I think there was some misunderstanding of the usage of =24=5FGET earlier=
 in this thread, although I may have misunderstood someone=E2=80=99s word=
ing. Regardless, if I go out and sample 100 PHP folks, I=E2=80=99m fairly=
 confident someone would make the association that either =24=5FGET or =24=
=5FPOST is bound strictly to the HTTP verb of the same name. Adding alias=
es gives these vars a more semantic name while not causing a massive BC b=
reakage.=C2=A0

The documentation would be simple and not have room for misinterpretation=
 as I see it:

=24=5F=46ORM is the exact same by-reference variable as =24=5FPOST
=24=5FQUERY is the exact same by-reference variable as =24=5FGET=C2=A0

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Mike Dugan
mike=40mjdugan.com
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