Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:77962 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13528 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2014 09:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2014 09:12:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=laruence@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=xinchen.h@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: xinchen.h@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.176 mail-vc0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.176] ([209.85.220.176:37955] helo=mail-vc0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 89/16-15889-809EC345 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:12:41 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hq11so7093425vcb.21 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:12:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ybazBTKJdmlKLU/31b7LFVEzrKpSqDfuRjvuoqjJ2KM=; b=fDKs2HNDKCLXnUGlyBPOJuhmsqF6fSbXkJdQxhxQkvG6xPsCtKFVyG3/8Se51Yzv+L IIMC7WEtT9r5UB0CRKqITXtn7KJ39DV/ZiYjGspY9T+W9QY31R41uswD5jyI75eP5sJD 7XdPsnEJQjdWALn4tzmUsReAn2+iF2a1dedos6mPIHjmzzOUQM7DwUuDIBfKGLMXvwVv 8YVBp1pSpArI6rAkvzG1hV8ONRZIgSgJNwUURDPPsHAVfWXQOEmEOUjSmqWCosDsTb9J 0s9R//cMk1Zpgb+bexdASkOu18c/mSFsyeCkze+94vSvFeGpPQUZ4/lc4CyZSvh0EFzN CEiw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnC/pWbkUdQJ5PnH4Aa7aRYjavy0I9XvacjwR5cO/GKzAruhDJIwbyiSECv+OgtZMZeOUYHRjcO3sRphLhfSQ3xA8GrGC2acZA2WynjvYNAN/grI7NPKkFziaJ1naNluroXAfe5dYjPSGTm13HJo2r8OggWlg== X-Received: by 10.221.46.137 with SMTP id uo9mr3651832vcb.36.1413277957576; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f170.google.com (mail-vc0-f170.google.com [209.85.220.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ex1sm3900711vdc.23.2014.10.14.02.12.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hy10so7248182vcb.1 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:12:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.220.111.6 with SMTP id q6mr1784876vcp.12.1413277957023; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:12:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.7.193 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:12:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <543CE7CC.8010300@sugarcrm.com> References: <32b8315ede38cd03ad4a7ab4497397e9@mail.gmail.com> <543CE7CC.8010300@sugarcrm.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:12:16 +0800 Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 7.0 timeline From: laruence@php.net (Xinchen Hui) Hey: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> we should freeze new features by the end of this year. then we could >> release 7 asap > > I think this is way too aggressive. This means basically next to nothing > that is not already has prepared RC gets into 7, since only discussion + > vote would take at least a month for anything substantial, and you have > to also work on RFC and patch. And not everybody has time to work on all > this fulltime, and some discussions can be slow or long-winded. > the problem here is, there is always new features if we wait... IMO, AST, INT64, NG, Uniforme variables style is enough for a new marjor version.. why we still need to wait? New features which missed PHP7.0, they can target at 7.1 instead. thanks > I think Zeev's timeline looks much better in this regard. I think GA > mid-October 2015 sounds a bit optimistic, but who knows, maybe it's me > that it too pessimistic :) > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ -- Xinchen Hui @Laruence http://www.laruence.com/