Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:77961 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11958 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2014 09:07:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2014 09:07:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 108.166.43.115 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 108.166.43.115 smtp115.ord1c.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [108.166.43.115] ([108.166.43.115:54338] helo=smtp115.ord1c.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 21/C5-15889-0D7EC345 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:07:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp23.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7F7922806E4; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:07:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp23.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id D4FF72806E8; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 05:07:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com Received: from Stass-MacBook-Pro.local (108-66-6-48.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [108.66.6.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:465 (trex/5.2.13); Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:07:26 GMT Message-ID: <543CE7CC.8010300@sugarcrm.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:07:24 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xinchen Hui , Zeev Suraski CC: PHP internals References: <32b8315ede38cd03ad4a7ab4497397e9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: PHP 7.0 timeline From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > we should freeze new features by the end of this year. then we could > release 7 asap I think this is way too aggressive. This means basically next to nothing that is not already has prepared RC gets into 7, since only discussion + vote would take at least a month for anything substantial, and you have to also work on RFC and patch. And not everybody has time to work on all this fulltime, and some discussions can be slow or long-winded. I think Zeev's timeline looks much better in this regard. I think GA mid-October 2015 sounds a bit optimistic, but who knows, maybe it's me that it too pessimistic :) -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/