Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:77668 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85203 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2014 11:55:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Sep 2014 11:55:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmitry@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmitry@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmitry@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.180 mail-vc0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.180] ([209.85.220.180:63377] helo=mail-vc0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 80/5B-27411-A4455245 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 07:55:54 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hq12so1763777vcb.39 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 04:55:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VCOyI+QB/VVqebdft+PsTyn93fCXQX2j7Q7Ruztq56c=; b=OKWCHfTAYc41fGd08w5YBvoDiaKp9eZmNUh9+q2WMNHfAkd58CjtFc+tgBH4q005i5 cajPHKhaMqjZJqqvavhTcOKZH9malOaDVrzdyHRs1Abi+J8SPr2tUF4VCgl1w0Q+jjVE 2kyusYk2G89SIwkxIdG+BnYVolAxq7lXjtZEi8sSvxUTIjO7HXC1FAwymCM/SF1eDldn BUE5OagWi+TlVOrasCtU7UUHWB5pa7pwvRAZX06fR3cPDXSfvUG8FzOaP9zbwAQe6rLw lBeTqUOS1p4lKqVPNNxO6ee4S0+3ZNsIESzsrCbPPmX0ayc3E8OWa+Bv+36RymqbhUgO Qf1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmYj2WGwWLMIgjPersGMwJvojAwn3mmAS3rdy6I2uUZj8f3vRhZG5O6M4Op48V4DPKMA2tQHAsE7xMgPrarCQXpPAV+xtkvHlhTbHBnFlJTNO4xHcKlCTGlt+We9IZ73tyVq77lAS6fbPFy+dHMmvlQXs1pUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.55.2 with SMTP id vw2mr722506vcb.29.1411732551607; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 04:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.158.197 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 04:55:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <63FFDE7B-4156-4BE2-9754-3F32E148C7B8@ajf.me> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:55:51 +0400 Message-ID: To: Derick Rethans Cc: Patrick Schaaf , Andrea Faulds , internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133a0fe41bc490503f69986 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Null Coalesce Operator From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) --001a1133a0fe41bc490503f69986 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 looks like Perl magic :( -1 Dmitry. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, Patrick Schaaf wrote: > > > Am 20.09.2014 01:35 schrieb "Andrea Faulds" : > > > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/isset_ternary#vote > > > > Hi, > > > > got a question after being bitten my the issue yesterday in the context > of > > the "@yadda ?: 'default'" form yesterday: > > > > What about yadda that results, at the moment, in fatal errors?? Things > like > > static::$missingproperty, $this->missingmethod(), and other stuff? > > > > Will the ?? operator > > A) make these non-fatal > > B) silently fatal (like now when @ is used) > > It should be this one to be consistent. @ is shit, but sadly can not be > avoided in all situations. > > cheers, > Derick > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --001a1133a0fe41bc490503f69986--