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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Sep 23, 2014 8:17 PM, "Zeev Suraski" <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
>

> I'd welcome better suggestions if anybody has any.  I think the complete
> lack of metrics and exceptionally low barrier to voting is a much bigger
> problem.
>

Please point me at a vote where the author is not part of what you defined
(and the rfc):
- php karma (doc)
- lead of leading projects

Now to create classes along developers or regular contributors is the worst
idea we can have. It says that writing docs is less valuable than a PoC.
Wrong in so many ways.

> Perhaps LoC?

Oh gosh...

>
> That said, 20 commits is an exceptionally low bar IMHO to get a say for a
> project with a *HUGE* impact such as PHP.

And what's about zero commit in 5+ years?

This discussion has the bad taste of creating a kind of elite in php.net.

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