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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:01:23 +0200
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To: Andrey Andreev <narf@devilix.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Andrey Andreev <narf@devilix.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Florian Anderiasch <ml@anderiasch.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/22/2014 08:56 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> >> > The first bullet is the one this thread deals with so far.  It clear=
ly
> >> > states that having an SVN account isn't enough - but that code
> >> contributions
> >> > to PHP are mandatory.  We should probably consider revising that to
> also
> >> > account for people contributing docs and other types of submissions.
> I'd
> >> > also consider adding a requirement for contributing at least X commi=
ts
> >> (say
> >> > 20 or 50) so that someone who did a one-off or two-off patch won't
> have
> >> the
> >> > same vote as someone who contributed  hundreds or thousands of
> commits.
> >> I
> >> > believe this data can be easily pulled from git.
> >>
> >> That's a horrible idea. From a very quick unscientific glance at
> >> https://github.com/php/php-src/graphs/contributors there's only ~50
> >> people *ever* to have more than 20 commits in php-src. (Incidentally I=
'm
> >> at the very bottom with 22, should I be happy to just have made the cu=
t
> >> if php-src commits are the only metric?)
> >>
> >
> > from a quick look that list only contains the contributors with an
> existing
> > (and matching) github account.
> > there are around 170 accounts with 20 or more commits:
> > https://gist.github.com/Tyrael/3bf0d24d33cf6b9e828b
> > ofc. some of those accounts are technical ones like the one with the
> empty
> > name (was used for changelog entries from a quick look), and there are
> also
> > some commits which were done by the same person but using different
> > email/author name.
>
> Even that list is not complete - it shows me with only 1 commit while
> I've got 2 pull requests merged.
>
>
one of your pr's did not keep the author info, it seems as it was squashed
into a single commit:
http://git.php.net/?p=3Dphp-src.git;a=3Dcommit;h=3Dec2fff80e768dfb04aa393c0=
6a2b1a42a9e871ff
so it isn't a problem with the list, but how your PR was merged.
ofc. probably there are other similar cases, so the potential number of
people with more than 20 commits could be different, but this the info we
have easy access to, and I don't think that it would change the numbers
significantly.

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Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

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