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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Improve PHP 7 serialization
From: dragoonis@gmail.com (Paul Dragoonis)

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Hi <person hiding behind a project>,

Backwards compatibility is one hurdle, but if you wipe all your serialised
data then begin to re-serialise using the new approach then you're fine.

As for what to use msgpack or igbinary, well there's already good support
for igbinary in PHP thanks to Pierre and others. You should benchmark
igbinary vs msgpack and come back with your findings if we're to evaluate
alternative serialization libraries.

Many thanks,
Paul


On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Park Framework <park.framework@gmail.com>
wrote:

> PHP serialization is slowest in PHP Session, clients NoSQL, ...
> I would like to have in PHP 7, a new serialization algorithm or custom
> handler to serialize.
>
> My opinion is that the best choice is to use msgpack, it is
> +110% faster
> -30% data size
>
> HHVM discussed this issue, but all boils down to backward compatibility
> with PHP
> https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/2654
>
> What do you think about this, maybe it's time to change the old
> algorithm serialization, on something better?
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