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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 22:49:45 +0100
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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
Cc: Laruence <laruence@php.net>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>, 
	Andrea Faulds <ajf@ajf.me>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Integer Semantics
From: petercowburn@gmail.com (Peter Cowburn)

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On 21 September 2014 04:53, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sep 21, 2014 10:48 AM, "Xinchen Hui" <laruence@php.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > On Sep 21, 2014 10:08 AM, "Xinchen Hui" <laruence@php.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Andrea Faulds <ajf@ajf.me> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On 21 Sep 2014, at 03:52, Xinchen Hui <laruence@php.net> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hey:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> it should be closed tomorrow, not today.
> > >> >
> > >> > It's the 21st in my timezone. I started the vote at 2am on the 14t=
h
> and
> > >> > it's now 4am on the 21st. I don't see a problem.
> > >>
> > >> the problem is, you only get 16:8 on today.  and it's weekend.
> > >>
> > >> that means your RFC is not very common acceptable. (I have strong
> > >> objection on it).
> > >>
> > >> and it's weekend,  so,  it's better to wait one day more..
> > >>
> > >> anyway, I see you already commit your patch... which is not very goo=
d.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I did not manage to vote while being on the road. But I am +1. So
> consider
> > > it as, theoretically, 17:8.
> > why you didn't?
> >
> > there are lot's of people didn't vote. so how to count theirs vote?
> >
> > (please if you have opinion.. then vote)
>
> It is closed now.
>

The vote is closed now, fact.  That does not prevent further (hopefully
productive) discussion from happening, and it also doesn=E2=80=99t stipulat=
e that
the RFC must be merged.

Closing the vote at the most convenient opportunity, when it suits the
author most, is not cool. Andrea has been pushing for a while to scrape
enough votes together to get this through, as a =E2=80=9Cprerequisite" for =
the
bigint RFC=E2=80=93which apparently would include these changes anyway, reg=
ardless
of the outcome of this vote=E2=80=93 even asking =E2=80=9Cno=E2=80=9D voter=
s on multiple occasions
to rescind their votes.  So. Not. Cool.


>
> > >
> > > However the nitpicking about votes periods, % and co is getting
> annoying. I
> > > will see if we can clarify that. To use all possible ways to block or
> push
> > > RFCs is getting counter productive and produce a bad experience.
> >
> > and nervemind.   I respect the RFC process, even I don't like this RFC
>
> :-)
>
> > thanks
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Pierre
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Xinchen Hui
> > @Laruence
> > http://www.laruence.com/
>

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