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Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 14:54:19 +0200
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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
Cc: PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>, Andrew Faulds <ajf@ajf.me>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs?
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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2014.09.20. 14:14 ezt =C3=ADrta ("Pierre Joye" <pierre.php@gmail.com>):
>
> On Sep 20, 2014 7:07 PM, "Andrea Faulds" <ajf@ajf.me> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 20 Sep 2014, at 06:06, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not sure what brings you here but the idea of community votes wa=
s
> one
> > > of the top thing when we introduced the voting RFC.
> >
> > I should've made clear I'm not opposed to community reps voting either.
> People who have made enough contributions to earn either karma or
community
> rep status should be allowed to vote. My problem is people with neither.
>
> For example?

I personally have seen a couple of cases where we (mostly Rasmus) approves
outstanding php.net accounts but there are no follow up, so for example the
proposed pecl package is not created nor any karma is granted.

For the record: currently it is possible for a pecl ext developer to not
have php.net account (pecl.php.net has its own user db and some exts aren't
hosted on our svn/git infrastructure) which means that they won't have
voting karma by default.

I think it would make sense to review and cross-check the accounts and
maybe remove those which were never used.

We also have to keep in mind, that there could be users without any karma,
but other contributions like sorting out bugs or event/notes moderation,
etc.

Afair the voting rfc required previous contribution not just an existing
php.net account, but as I mentioned there are a bunch of ways to contribute
other than having commits in one of the repos so there is no easy way to
check that programatically.

Ps: sorry for the typos, sending from my phone.

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