Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:77375 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4788 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2014 11:52:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Sep 2014 11:52:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.171 mail-we0-f171.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.171] ([74.125.82.171:50420] helo=mail-we0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 10/E1-24334-67A6D145 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:52:22 -0400 Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id k48so864367wev.30 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:52:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VqNQvYoFFpHLgaisoXzVke2XqMwI0N+h1H4vuqrvx4s=; b=XCXcOqZuTO5msjDaEYfY1EceH/CVuUPUyfIUYxKZoL4PFChJFLHRDFCd/G/OGAGrev voIwkDgYyx4MfJl0tYDXJbVHjYssji2dt0CGeV0fATb7y/gMBbh2x1gpQXlDuDSxT/K0 Tc/q9GUkIgPRZekIawo1q3aZgk+CVlg5fLrBdYu4ZcizvX0PkmaC6nbr6QYHNx7s4ShP sjdpy+H5K70hpUoKcgQV8nEKPI8s27VajytHReUCyLodd3CN48IlZXS/cLioJwdhs2rk yRHYHNCMVQnCWyo986FPNYadhCpF4Y0FYj2d8z6Y1yV8XwWrtlgVlhauWOim2UrnkK4Z YWbg== X-Received: by 10.194.220.7 with SMTP id ps7mr7521968wjc.28.1411213939277; Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cpc68956-brig15-2-0-cust215.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.6.24.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w10sm5338021wje.10.2014.09.20.04.52.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <541D6A50.4010200@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:51:44 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <8DEFB90E-0F7F-4876-890D-D4AD1C655D87@ajf.me> <541D4642.2010400@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <541D4642.2010400@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it fair that people with no karma can vote on RFCs? From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 20/09/2014 10:17, Lester Caine wrote: > That most of my spare time is still being taken up > living with the consequences of changes in PHP is water under the bridge > now [...] PLEASE can we get > back to a level playing field and use PHP7 as a base to get something > stable and fully compatible with modern requirements. Only put stuff in > PHP5 now that is NEEDED so we can finally catch up! Please refrain from turning every conversation into an excuse to jump on your soapbox about the direction PHP is going. Your general points have surely been raised and debated many times over by now, and there is no language change discussed in this thread for you to make specific points for or against. I have no right - and no desire - to rob you of your voice, but am sure your energy could be better directed to more specific goals. -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]