Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:77273 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22247 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2014 19:30:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2014 19:30:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.208 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.208 imap2-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.208] ([192.64.116.208:37798] helo=imap2-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5A/59-64534-FDF88145 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:30:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E41E8C0080; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:30:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap2.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id fOX2cbpQBaqD; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oa-res-27-90.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-27-90.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.27.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5854F8C007D; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) In-Reply-To: <20140916192842.521E22601F3@dd15934.kasserver.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:30:30 +0100 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <3FDC7024-78BB-4337-B0C7-4AE4B29A146D@ajf.me> References: <20140916192842.521E22601F3@dd15934.kasserver.com> To: Thomas Bley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Implicit isset() in Shorthand Ternary Operator From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) On 16 Sep 2014, at 20:28, Thomas Bley wrote: > What are the pros and cons of a new operator vs. a new function? For = example, MySQL has a coalesce() function: > = http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/comparison-operators.html#function_= coalesce A function is useless as it wouldn=92t stop you getting E_NOTICEs. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/