Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76909 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45762 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2014 17:09:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Aug 2014 17:09:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.178 mail-qc0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.178] ([209.85.216.178:58445] helo=mail-qc0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1F/24-19261-9C01EF35 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:09:30 -0400 Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id x3so595721qcv.37 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:09:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MKtyrsB/SXWvOYypI/yqzM3BWvmolJfdS+jNliWdMlA=; b=tKBQk1/kTe3js5vONNS6B0es3wzMKdK2egxa8E6HWYkMXda2WagvA4hxoYIVDDpY6A hsatORsbnZ8KPGFi2mlPV5yb3IYOQAs5Ezd6NrKhIXXPYeHI/XmfERS1bG1da2XHid9p LY2wfiT2MXedcPPZw3zniLhBlipKpUurF//kvB74VzYtZ/jti+VMzMN/u0iaZOwT0lbf yx+0gqU4dLYYvKJtXnijyr1ybJQn15ZWEZkXiO6Mh7APSr7ihi17ZloD+ynutQ1j5hqD cj9xlyfDi2UYYs7Zm2grcQekpBoYbaXkaOQSIopbufj03TmbU62BuSrybf1Sxv8GvlT5 JsjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.129.1 with SMTP id m1mr31107071qas.0.1409159367118; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.95.146 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:09:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8140768935148896456@unknownmsgid> References: <53FCE948.9080305@sugarcrm.com> <8140768935148896456@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:09:27 +0200 Message-ID: To: Xinchen Hui Cc: Stas Malyshev , Andrea Faulds , Nikita Popov , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Remove generated lexers from git? From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Xinchen Hui wrote: > =E5=8F=91=E8=87=AA=E6=88=91=E7=9A=84 iPad > >> =E5=9C=A8 2014=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=8827=E6=97=A5=EF=BC=8C4:09=EF=BC=8CStas M= alyshev =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >> >> Hi! >> >>> On a similar theme, could we also get rid of the generated Zend VM, >>> and wire up zend_vm_gen.php to make like we wire up bison and re2c? >> >> That would make building PHP for non-internals person harder and the >> list of dependencies they need to get right longer. While providing zero >> added value. And yes, there are a lot of non-internals persons building >> PHP. Sometimes they may even use git. >> >>> That would make PHP a dependency to build PHP, but it would hardly be >>> the first language which is reliant on itself to be built. Are there >> >> It would not be the first, but why do it? It works just fine right now, >> why break it? > +1 here. > > I am wondering how it will benefit us? Same, while I am annoyed from time to time due to git co after new builds, there is nothing so bad that I would ask anyone else to install PHP to compile PHP. > IMO, nothing but a worthless discussion again. Only off base answers are worthless. Discussions happen and it is up to us to make it constructive and end it in time. --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org