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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Better type names for int64 RFC
From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)

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On 8/22/14, 10:46 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> In other words, it would be nice to see more developers actually
> porting extensions to realize the amount of changes are introduced by
> NG and by the int64. The sooner is in order of magnitude must larger.
> It is not a bad comment, only a fact. Given that, before we choose to
> say that it is fine for one part to change APIs/Macros signatures or
> names and not for another, we should really get a better view of what
> has actually changed. And how we can deal with our old habit to
> maintain one tree for many major PHP versions. For many extensions, I
> do not think it will be possible, or with unreadable code with 2-3x
> more #ifdef all over the place.

I knew you would make this comparison. I am willing to suffer porting
pain if it gets me a 20% performance boost. I am completely unwilling to
suffer any porting pain because Pierre has decided he doesn't like the
names of some macros.

-Rasmus


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