Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76574 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6566 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2014 22:52:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Aug 2014 22:52:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.54 mail-qg0-f54.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.54] ([209.85.192.54:54780] helo=mail-qg0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 61/21-34004-62F8EE35 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:52:22 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z60so2712404qgd.41 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:52:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mAL+r/V94KTxVTzUEyc/Kh4p4UqMPvyXpFHh0IDGK0A=; b=Cf/1d6WM8BjU+0ZDuDYGWFRWCkGchj6ZhkKLlyG1aK2kqZ1MolpAY2j+26gh9QuvuF nNXfq9X/f1ZlZB31sKx+4v7rCIbBIw6Fc4ktvdtwCXkz7IeSBRo9FBFo2iMzN+TCBd8O a5KzUoxvB2MlKQIALK0vXNIoi7KtzcpgMpMb2tFvKSflzDhX3pwNT/knenSNNj0OvGZH NhSTx1N3IitNYDIQSDX/AJBnYLOJHkd3W7dnFyfG5Oqk1xx384/OxymzDtoaQnR9Xhzl iSlEEKNB3CcK26WTepFDe4qlAAxI9TUO2PnFD2F3DADP8UCTmg4FKBzj8o2mYKksDcCf zWLQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.106.225 with SMTP id e88mr30776382qgf.20.1408143139936; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.24.54 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:52:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5C97D818-4616-440D-9C0D-B9F9C8D034DC@ajf.me> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 00:52:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: David Soria Parra Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Let's make a 5.7 release From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:49 AM, David Soria Parra wrote: > On 2014-08-15, Pierre Joye wrote: >> --001a1133979e094b370500b2c0a9 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> On Aug 16, 2014 12:20 AM, "David Soria Parra" wrote: >> (didn't >>> we learn anything from PHP 6?). >> >> I did. And with opcache. Both with hypothetical deadlines based on >> arbitrary random facts about the status or stability. >> >> Here we have two issues, whether or not we need a 5.x to prepare 7 and if >> one year Dev time is enough. >> >> Let be realistic instead of yet again trying to achieve impossible goals, >> or think we achieved them and release something we won't be able to change >> for the next decade. > > Let me summerize a few things that have come up: > > (1) phpng doesn't justify PHP7 > It does. It's a complete new engine. It has performance improvements. Where > do you draw the line of what justifies a PHP 7? It's a major BC break and we > needd a major version for it No it does not. Even if it would do, that's not something I can live with in the next 10 years. As I repeatedly said, with explanations why. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org