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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 14:53:52 +0100
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To: Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Let's make a 5.7 release
From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds)


On 15 Aug 2014, at 11:43, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> =
wrote:
>=20
>> Basically, you're wanting to give up hope on PHP 7 in one year *at =
the
>> moment it is started*... I think that's a pretty big mistake to do =
this
>> already. The momentum is here now, let's use it to get PHP 7
>> ready=97instead of bogging ourselves down with a PHP 5.7.
>=20
> we don't have a single instance where we were able to deliver a minor
> release under a year, and I'm fairly sure that 7.0 will see more =
proposed
> features/changes as any previous minor, because there are stuff which =
can
> only happen in a major version.
> More changes(both in numbers and in impact) will need more time to
> stabilize, so I think that the one year roadmap for 7.0 is =
unrealistic.
> You seem to be arguing that 5.7 would pull away resources from 7.0, =
but I'm
> fairly sure that 5.7 would be the smallest of the 5.x minor versions =
for
> two reasons: we are getting better with not letting BC breaks slip in =
in
> minors plus working on a major version is much more interesting as you =
have
> less restrictions, so I think that 5.7 will/would be only to make the =
bed
> for 7.0, mostly introducing E_DEPRECATEDs and maybe a handfull of =
small
> features.
> I think that there is no reason to give up our current release policy =
and
> roadmap, and bet everything on PHP7, we don't lose anything with =
keeping
> 5.7.

I can=92t agree more with this, you=92ve put it better than I did.

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Andrea Faulds
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