Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76552 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49594 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2014 13:39:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Aug 2014 13:39:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.182 mail-ob0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.182] ([209.85.214.182:34939] helo=mail-ob0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 47/C4-48767-C9D0EE35 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:39:40 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wm4so1988544obc.41 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 06:39:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QjN1clKBEeYkAKq7NS7VYsLPdSaeb+gxYS+hcErTL70=; b=dU0Ba8mF6X1waHF6FikL3UIz7Yyz7+FAdGatHU1zMCyBKC1+PWs8QuefVmEgB6yRKV tLmCcUmb0NZhN1tYybY5JnonoffCy2tt/393ib8JHS+qnl+cfgbrWLi/OCqC+jH6hZq9 5TNqaRQwfz7xo+WTwXAmTS+feBDnKGWCLG4pWrwX381Ij54KuyCsIEMR4Oma9hdGRAhD 1nPBNZXVV1TXgG9A8bEENJAM/0KqI5uK9J0eAUqzsRG6mEnxJAztitmfiYgRT6b8dHke URAnJhI8tLl4HsFnrfK/1hdbc1jTDkm/J1a16Un8l/8M+CBOoL0x1bzqfMKPVG/ZZpH5 6xqQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.23.39 with SMTP id j7mr20817930oef.20.1408109977713; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 06:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.157.231 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 06:39:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EDF733.4000906@gmail.com> References: <5C97D818-4616-440D-9C0D-B9F9C8D034DC@ajf.me> <53EDF733.4000906@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:39:37 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Q1pzoqw7NTGYORflFSbS0Hyu03g Message-ID: To: Rowan Collins Cc: internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Let's make a 5.7 release From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) I'm not completely sure about others in this thread, but my personal view is that PHP 5.7 should be released at around the same time as PHP 7. It should contain E_DEPRECATED warnings where applicable, such as proposed in the multiple default arguments RFC. I've also heard talk of removing some features in PHP 7 that are currently E_STRICT; in this case we would also move them to E_DEPRECATED in PHP 5.7. In summary, I think PHP 5.7 should primarily contain deprecations to ease the transition to 7, and should not take significant resources away from PHP 7.