Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76526 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23508 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2014 21:55:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Aug 2014 21:55:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=are.you.winning@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=are.you.winning@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: are.you.winning@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.54 mail-qg0-f54.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.54] ([209.85.192.54:51287] helo=mail-qg0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 44/2D-40673-0403DE35 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:55:12 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z60so1612514qgd.13 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:55:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1z+pdrVG+oYyMlhZswbw3yfKrd04VsX5txOwkH2nyso=; b=ASMOXQD3756g7MA4F72n5LgMVlkbl2+0t1aYKI36rw1mtMHgYhFxV2S6sILTQrg1rq D4rZ26JD4rJ+E/ywuJFicWwmG932fP8RjqGMI6Bj3vFP4sGZF+30JG300zw19osQy54c v6Qn8d5JgW1Wv5zA4VAH9L+JnA7upKanCwJ5yjbhcOTr12KrLYx48MJktLWNqCSNwpT/ Su2jSh5Y1mX8836GeDNtzFa8uy52ke1xvcb8fEoMiBGPogHBYvjlj8gzCNcJBaFAwhD+ 3jB1Ttz7rXyUU7tsqK/mmggSCsJsey0NU5lNMR9aMXQmYwIoKi9aqv2BmcjxUqJmuaAs exsg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.173.7 with SMTP id n7mr22028299qaz.57.1408053309737; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: are.you.winning@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.64.196 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:55:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:55:09 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: prAe7hqIpkAjJ-vruQ9pvNf3BFs Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: Jan Ehrhardt , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Status of PHP 5.4 From: cw@daverandom.com (Chris Wright) On 14 August 2014 22:41, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > On 14 Aug 2014, at 22:34, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > >> PHP 5.3 has reached the real end of life. Will the effect be that from >> now on PHP 5.4 will only get security fixes? > > I=E2=80=99m curious about this too. The release process RFC says only bug= fixes after 2 years, and it is well beyond that now (5.4 came out March 20= 12). > > Look at the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP#Release_his= tory > > That 5.4 bit should be yellow. 5.6 ought to be green, too, but alas this = release, like every, has been delayed. For me this is a better way to explain why 5.4 is not (currently) security only. We maintain the current and the previous, we should not arbitrarily change the status of the previous before there is a new current. The release of 5.6 should push 5.4 into security-only state, rather than the 5.3 EOL. I realise in this case it should happen at almost the same time (I think the plan is that 5.6.0RC3 is the last RC?) but let's imagine that 5.7 is delayed by 5 years for some reason - it's reasonable to expect that 5.4 would be dropped a long time before 5.7 is released in this scenario, since "security only" mode is (as I see it) only to give stragglers the chance to upgrade, we don't want to maintain 3 branches for the sake of it. The release process helps to ensure that upgrading should now be considerably less painful that it previously was, and saying goodbye to 5.3 means that all currently maintained branches have been (largely) subject to this process. This makes "security only" for the sake of stragglers less relevant, meaning that we shouldn't need to keep 5.4 alive for nearly as long as 5.3 has been. Because of this, when 5.4 *is* EOL, that doesn't necessarily mean that 5.5 is suddenly security only. IMO, YMMV Thanks, Chris