Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76387 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59831 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2014 13:06:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Aug 2014 13:06:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.54 mail-qa0-f54.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.54] ([209.85.216.54:64848] helo=mail-qa0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 44/08-13038-C5822E35 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 09:06:36 -0400 Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id k15so2372767qaq.41 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Atc3ZxXcWcNOVUQMrcoAc8DTLDs9d8Djt1tn0qvic4k=; b=zqOf8arxmSXOo6FgKHRzfAVcKySVRgtqVEWD+yVpjbTD9XyWL2nJZ+bKlG6A0Af5xb 4wjkzKsRJv8XGQduOFmtxDJvKOAG9jH1IJXVBn4K/c683Sb8+1vOhx17iNu7YyuUdXic q5TXpOLEux2luClytmIwvMlJ/jFQBKIKIbRFB4J/X3WxjilId3iIQq5xGta3b8PqiK8Q enCYvm4OehEa14L/oxz81Qih2VUoBgPoCAT4CK3zA3ckzt8pFxMhGUGpaz5bDxjIYHea MHELFLvwE1y8nA7gUMG6/JcN0ADoJAocEp7UsTjwJdrkm3dSOPI/a7zqRUqCFs3J+WnZ 4NhQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.105.72 with SMTP id b66mr3098136qgf.30.1407330423721; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.24.54 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5f3f8f22d7969dad9d1d80d369c9d026@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a5c7d37c2115f52a58d82d489540a6d@mail.gmail.com> <78C8A4C4-0FA5-4445-AFA7-558B14C831F6@ajf.me> <5f3f8f22d7969dad9d1d80d369c9d026@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:07:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Jonny Stirling , PHP internals , Andrea Faulds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Fully agree with Andrea. I don't think there's a point in debating the > majority question to no end, because ultimately, it's open for > interpretation. I feel very, very confident about my interpretation - for > reasons I explained already. I didn't ignore the feedback, I disagreed > with it. You disagree with questions? I call that self censorship. Very good lead. >> Now, could Zeev make it have a 2/3 majority to be less controversial? > Sure, >> but he doesn't have to. > > I still stand by my original comment - that I hope and believe this RFC > will get well over 2/3 - but that it technically only requires a simple > majority. A total rewamp of the engine, with some part of it being very disputable, some even had draft RFCs but looks like feedback for them are being ignored as well, and some BC as bonus? This requires 2/3. Period. And you will certainly get them, don't worry. And that's quite depressing about what's going on in php.net lately. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org