Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76385 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56580 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2014 12:58:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Aug 2014 12:58:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.179 mail-vc0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.179] ([209.85.220.179:50078] helo=mail-vc0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C5/57-13038-19622E35 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 08:58:59 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hq11so3912425vcb.38 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=6wBiQojVEwSrFDkWYQ7I+4FPrqZYer1t21O/wDMQ+XQ=; b=L6/srwiIIUG2hsXWEt6g7pVmYAItQPaOkhx4h0i1ZkKp81y1hu7vsGwK0jsNRD1Ys6 Lm4gesmxjliSvScK6FyUTA4NiVrtiR7B6qaAvGYkyQzcLPSnR8qBwCDFmM2odWN9lF79 kNe4U219Gp6mcwDnWEU1Rs3OxqlVMZIGsWq2yO2rNtcuZHjRuzmA9ForrCg/w+IoiWtj kQ4Gn2rYRYYWrsncO6KhxUIBoAIkpnIPqaGe9sGbVFeBj9ccZqTgKE7fECaC6ooG9FQO PLF9iJ4vWppdO+oRsJqjRX/U0IyyFHiPhWb9IHkcZPeWT+qi0cgLsHrnt1XFANcCKqJ2 bF7w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnAM37BPFkmm7AwgomL6yW6RjcVwbGG6WckSh+2U3ojZC7bl4K01Yy/UDLUb3ScbP12tEKQjrs563FeiXE1sgY/i7TrkQAKex60/vw/nUjUVGBSADCvJvcQEwDk1nJCPDATytUs X-Received: by 10.220.68.208 with SMTP id w16mr301172vci.79.1407329965423; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) References: <5a5c7d37c2115f52a58d82d489540a6d@mail.gmail.com> <78C8A4C4-0FA5-4445-AFA7-558B14C831F6@ajf.me> In-Reply-To: <78C8A4C4-0FA5-4445-AFA7-558B14C831F6@ajf.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGbyuheUrfNqTo1UF1zr6R+DTERegGe2sygARbJCJqcFah2MA== Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:59:24 +0300 Message-ID: <5f3f8f22d7969dad9d1d80d369c9d026@mail.gmail.com> To: Jonny Stirling Cc: PHP internals , Andrea Faulds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea Faulds [mailto:ajf@ajf.me] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:51 PM > To: Jonny Stirling > Cc: Zeev Suraski; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Move the phpng branch to master > > > On 6 Aug 2014, at 13:47, Jonny Stirling wrote: > > > I love how you've just completely ignored any previous discussion > > around the required majority issue. > > Has it really been *ignored*? Just because someone wants something doesn't > mean you have to give it. > > Under Zeev's (and as it so happens, my) interpretation of the voting process > RFC, this does not need a 2/3 majority. phpng is not a language change, it is an > implementation detail. Fully agree with Andrea. I don't think there's a point in debating the majority question to no end, because ultimately, it's open for interpretation. I feel very, very confident about my interpretation - for reasons I explained already. I didn't ignore the feedback, I disagreed with it. > Now, could Zeev make it have a 2/3 majority to be less controversial? Sure, > but he doesn't have to. I still stand by my original comment - that I hope and believe this RFC will get well over 2/3 - but that it technically only requires a simple majority. Zeev