Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76263 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93398 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2014 07:19:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jul 2014 07:19:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=narf@devilix.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=narf@devilix.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain devilix.net designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: narf@devilix.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.179 mail-ob0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.179] ([209.85.214.179:51608] helo=mail-ob0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 12/38-29261-48C98D35 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 03:19:33 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id wn1so267888obc.38 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 00:19:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=devilix.net; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xiMoQLgHhShTzSRYCgM2seB4YLMyDyGruRHwLvxMRFw=; b=ZNb8+kY6adUs4QBlTEczaSVaz/mDMCt/5LKn84nQLW3IQjhwzwmyREnTBfJPvBJO// DlLyOfC+Nxws0O9JeU+RCMiJEaWxnH1XWJaPSmEYIRWny2/2OvjgfynDAvrsxwqXDTj0 6DO4Mx9R+Pvbu9Gw7f/Hs8mHSTcoVmpFYcHj0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xiMoQLgHhShTzSRYCgM2seB4YLMyDyGruRHwLvxMRFw=; b=eKq7+2r9uQMMmbS9+x+AZ4DDXXC1lzdpMB1TGyOPCX7/HCaBzDISiaJ8C1jNhjEgPM DtCeyZdDyco7VtAp3mYP/Uo4jnsk02braNmVfCwzWF1R2IlCu4dd1dEGkvSfuJTPpnx2 /64YkoEOaLE/hiTpcucHKWi2ZCeFBuO9eRgYtczvfrxdMghW3ut4X7Ndw3/Izmf/G6YW CIKXDoWt2CQDxsckVLGfpSAsSW7M/3ZO9ul7Rz4NF+/4a1VLLj7XxOTvq4BITol8FniK ERTvORJZUJfckm5MdYOmhKOwZig+aqlwo73ugKdJIXok4r1YQkaPk0ma/NZSGmHyJONb mFzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmpUH2apmtXbnQd67OspotW98/8/RztK7DdrrdGcDh+fVBER5yMRU4UbdQ2CekhtPwns+oQ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.123.103 with SMTP id lz7mr3206358oeb.18.1406704786016; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 00:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.75.205 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 00:19:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 10:19:45 +0300 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] "PHP" namespace? From: narf@devilix.net (Andrey Andreev) Hi, On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Hi Andrey, > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Andrey Andreev wrote: >> >> This would be a major BC break, that couldn't possibly happen in PHP >> 5.x and IMO is way too radical even for PHP 6/7. > > > It wouldn't be major BC, but minor. > > Most compatible way is to allow namespace alias to \ (root) and simply > override > existing functions. There isn't BC with this. PHP allows it already when it > is done > one by one. > > If we would like to have clean \ (root) namespace optionally, it's matter of > adding > a setting. > > What make you think it a major BC? > > Regards, > > -- > Yasuo Ohgaki > yohgaki@ohgaki.net If you'd alias the root namespace to \php or whatever, what's the point in all of it? I don't see such, so I assumed that you meant to require developers to explicitly import whatever they need in the root namespace. And that would be a major BC break. Cheers, Andrey.