Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76209 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83600 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2014 01:00:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jul 2014 01:00:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.48 mail-la0-f48.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.48] ([209.85.215.48:52022] helo=mail-la0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A2/11-11902-090A5D35 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 21:00:03 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id gl10so4959481lab.35 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:00:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=wzQpp+vsWNAc1jH5RD5L7Hys38G2p1p7j3nWCXtkkxc=; b=LUh885XMoelSAkXf6Yg+XMcJO1OsY08MFxlFzjoZHZfzxLFIQShwbvtl5THOeA3NJh i/GbyPVne+0EalfCh3S1O6EZhhA9easPYzk4/7e9cgrILmVtEMvNngFSnzScWYUMtSk+ D10AHXSaDaN5uv3T8prGnWmPAogDjTiIOYDUOdsJ5xyFo8BGwxWOTZat4qA30OjZ3QUy HKjUN1MRIFGD2nZ2AOiS1wliYUYoGV4SaGcML6BFm1duUA7xUjSgF/xyotSIgYxA7zY4 eJwAql2owGDtp1hFgxRej9EUy8QpKNiLy/Xi3bRcRhh9fOgxc4rY+0dzVvYbhsdi1eP4 VYvw== X-Received: by 10.152.43.17 with SMTP id s17mr5473921lal.81.1406509207846; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:00:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.214.228 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:59:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <678E1F20-9F37-49DF-B48A-097B17389586@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:59:27 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0NygpojtIQuGrhPYfe3Ymuq0NXY Message-ID: To: Kris Craig Cc: Michael Wallner , PHP Internals , Zeev Suraski Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c34db8b5060d04ff367191 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Move phpng to master From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) --001a11c34db8b5060d04ff367191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Kris, On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Kris Craig wrote: > According to w3techs, JavaScript retains an extremely tiny market share in > terms of general purpose languages: > > > http://w3techs.com/technologies/comparison/pl-java,pl-php,pl-ruby,pl-python,pl-js > > > It looks like the sources are all measuring different metrics. It would > be interesting to see a closer analysis of the data and figure out which > metrics are the most relevant to this question. > Since we have enough market share on web apps already, why don't we focus more on developers? There are many awesome none web app tools that are developed with JavaScript because of it's popularity and developers' passion. PHP is losing popularity for sure. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/PHP.html PHP is the worst in terms of lost popularity among top 20 languages. It should be a flag for us to adjust our strategy/view. Market share comes after language popularity. When market share has changed, it would be too late. Anyway, I'm willing to have phpng as master, as well as INT64 branch. Both are good for PHP. IMO. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net --001a11c34db8b5060d04ff367191--