Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76187 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95259 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2014 08:03:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Jul 2014 08:03:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mike.php.net@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mike.php.net@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mike.php.net@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.54 mail-la0-f54.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.54] ([209.85.215.54:53491] helo=mail-la0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 03/4E-22380-D52B4D35 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 04:03:42 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id el20so4433594lab.13 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:03:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/KHGEXxnBCOqu6dn5oSI2YaQ0ExCMg6qAFRXSjsjnfc=; b=cwiqF5KFNHGaIATXbvb+uRq+VGc8/kYaQQAYDimYScR/gezPh8ZKoeDMl5x3Jhr/FP uiLECNtwRcJ86PwnmFPBbOCbsDFYYkymMPQPYcQ0CnKTrETWhGIPDOBwbu2xgFBhPX8m 386LUKy73EO5hTmS2AyjsB27IfTS7j+61gOIJoSCn0yqa6rbTDBMWUM3M0+KzPjrzxfK bz9N37bSNNmw8Atg45lTjDM355V+k/LlLKl4Zb65h446QbaB/9tp9+izTjLXRSv/oWcn pqwCq4RFRlU/8K7ndRkMz7crXlgUK1dBXu7c/o8+S5f7r90MLdyOKWXU71QsCRTtLWvU LPFA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.37.228 with SMTP id b4mr681116lak.95.1406448228563; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.27.2 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.27.2 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:03:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <678E1F20-9F37-49DF-B48A-097B17389586@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:03:48 +0200 Message-ID: To: Kris Craig Cc: PHP Internals , Yasuo Ohgaki , Zeev Suraski Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e014939fc0f01ce04ff283f4b Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Move phpng to master From: mike.php.net@gmail.com (Michael Wallner) --089e014939fc0f01ce04ff283f4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 27 Jul 2014 09:26, "Kris Craig" wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Michael Wallner wrote: >> >> >> On 27 Jul 2014 08:23, "Kris Craig" wrote: >> > >> > Here's my question to counter yours, Michael: What's the rush? >> > >> >> Every day php-ng is not GA, PHP is losing ground to its competitors. > > Umm, how? Do you have any data to support this? According to http://php.net/usage.php, as of 2012, PHP's usage is steadily increasing. As far as our competitors are concerned, well: > > http://w3techs.com/technologies/comparison/pl-java,pl-php,pl-ruby,pl-python > > > As you can see, PHP continues to dominate with over 80% market share and no signs-- at least, none that I can see-- that we are "losing ground" as you stated. > Surely it's wise to make the same wrong assumptions Microsoft did with Internet Explorer? --089e014939fc0f01ce04ff283f4b--