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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:41:21 +0200
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To: Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>
Cc: Julien Pauli <jpauli@php.net>, Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com>, Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com>, 
	Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>, PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Weird constant expression syntax and bug
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Julien Pauli <jpauli@php.net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com> wrote:
> >
> >> PHP-5.6 is frozen for new features for a long time.
> >> Adding new features after RC is not a good idea.
> >> And we will need some kind of RFC and voting.
> >>
> >
> > I agree here.
> >
> > Bob, if you've been late proposing an RFC and couldn't get it up in tim=
e,
> > I'm sorry about it.
> > Please, understand we are very close to a release, and ATM, we're still
> > talking about weither this *user land* feature or that *user land*
> feature
> > will
> > be available, makes sense, or not. (that's a technical feature, but it
> > involves user land here).
> > That can't be !
> >
> > We absolutely need something we, maintainers - creators - authors , thi=
nk
> > is *stable*.
> > The PHP project needs that, we all agree.
> >
> > If the static array feature can't be added to the AST safely, please,
> > remove it.
> >
> > You've already added so much new great code (AST for this example) to
> 5.6,
> > I personnally thank you about this, however now it is really time to ma=
ke
> > it stable, and commit its new features you may think about into 5.7 (or
> > what will be 5.7, ATM : master) , and write new RFCs about those if
> needed.
> >
> > Knowing your actual work in addition of that, is deep into the engine a=
nd
> > has inpact on OPCache, that dmitry and other contributors work hard on =
to
> > improve/fix every day, is another point that should let us think about =
a
> > minute : we just can't afford that.
> >
> > 5.6 is late, for many reasons. We need to release it ASAP, but not with
> > code we don't fully trust.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Julien.Pauli
> >
>
> Could somebody please clarify what issues are still open here? From what =
I
> understand, both the opcache issue and the recursion issue are fixed now.
> What's the discussion about?
>
> One point I'd like to be considered is the ability to dereference arrays =
in
> constant scalar expressions. Currently this syntax allows things like
> Foo[0], which are not allowed by normal PHP expressions. I would suggest
> either removing the ability to dereference altogether or at least make su=
re
> that it matches normal PHP expressions.
>
> Nikita
>

my guess is that Julien also missed the fixes from Dmitry.

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