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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Language Specification
From: larry@garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield)

On 7/24/14, 2:38 PM, Sara Golemon wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Zend is only one of many
>>> contributors. Yes, the engine is still named Zend Engine but the
>>> language has been improved by many php.net contributors.
>>>
>> The idea was that "ZPHP" is PHP running on top of the Zend Engine, in the
>> same way that "JRuby" is Ruby running on top of the JVM, and "CPython" is
>> Python implemented in C.  In my mind, it doesn't imply any connection to the
>> company of the same name - especially if we're only borrowing its first
>> letter - but perhaps others would see that differently.
>>
> We (HHVM) ran into this issue as well.  We'd talk about the way PHP
> (the reference implementation) does something and needed to
> disambiguate it from PHP (the language syntax).  Prior to my joining
> the project "Zend" was the go-to moniker for this.  Since I've seen
> that go down very poorly many times in the past (who here remembers
> the ZendCon where they included "Zend === PHP" on their marketing
> materials?) I pushed the team towards saying "PHP5" when referring to
> the implementation, and "PHP" when referring to the language syntax.
>
> That's not really a solution for us (PHP), but I do think the issue of
> separating the language from the implementation is useful, even if our
> (PHP) implementation of PHP (syntax) is and will always be the
> de-facto reference implementation.
>
> -Sara
>
> P.S. - Pronouns are getting hard, yo.

Until we figure it out, I will be referring to the current common 
implementation as "Zippy".  Hopefully it catches on.

--Larry Garfield