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To: Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Weird constant expression syntax and bug
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Am 23.7.2014 um 22:33 schrieb Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>:
> > Hi!
> >
> >> It was a restriction to not support arrays in constant context. It see=
ms
> >> like nobody can remember why it was introduced.
> >
> > My vague recollection is that it had some troubles with keeping
> > refcounts consistent, esp. withing bytecode caching context, but it may
> > be a false memory :)
>
> That doesn't really make much sense to me, at least not with current
> engine...
> As said, I've tested it and didn't find issues. Maybe I just test the
> wrong things=E2=80=A6
>
> >> However, I think it's too dangerous to break it in last minute before
> >> release.
> >
> > We definitely need to fix the WTF with "no runtime use" for defined
> > constant and the segfault before the release. I think for the arrays, i=
f
> > we can't have it working properly we'd better not have array support
> > there for 5.6.0 and fix it in 5.6.1 than have this weird "no runtime
> > use" thing.
>
> Well, we still could fix it now, AFAIK, we will still have another RC now
> and when we fix it only for 5.6.1, there also will only be one RC in
> between.
> That's no gain in testing time etc..
>
> Bob
>
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>
yeah, there will be another RC for sure, but we have to have some
resulotion for that.
I think it would be safer to remove stuff (even if just the array support)
than trying to fix in in a hurry, as it would probably just cause shipping
the final with some other bug(s) or having a couple of other RCs.

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