Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76110 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66390 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2014 10:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2014 10:15:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.46 mail-qg0-f46.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.46] ([209.85.192.46:42743] helo=mail-qg0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A0/AC-29475-25E22D35 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:15:46 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id z60so4752186qgd.5 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 03:15:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=282b+fMPcM7/np8tu0Fr4AeFcjK1BMbxY3R8Dw+6xq8=; b=LivHVvERyFgu59C5Dh4dzt0R66Ku7o2KSSYEizbd+MF4xMeSRf+ZU8liWGV/RaDFeY yry90yiP8GRZjqjwCho7n34/gxSlLWng0qa1lTvy+x5+vUszwt9OPFRMauusgr+xUbSJ pQwqCMVWyHgHbEoAzqnDDyuMxgIWQZTbftQTF+CBVMICXFWe2+EXZDPqQh40YqJDo+tH Z/IFSrdX9s1BI8xCljaa0Qo9zpnR7nZguDuxYPWoahbf8W4/tsdoXBEk61MlwM46ilvB jwq8DAckY08quYAaXppYJLfruZl1N73Pr/BEr3SvHDKRKRwHDYOdUldWSODUK4WoObaG xBJQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.4.73 with SMTP id 9mr25889232qaq.12.1406283349251; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 03:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.102.111 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 03:15:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53D213D0.7030208@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:15:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: Zeev Suraski , Jocelyn Fournier , Laruence , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c21eda7c5ffb04ff01db93 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About PHP NG "document lacking" argument From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --001a11c21eda7c5ffb04ff01db93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Nikita Popov wrote= : > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> >> > Jocelyn, >> > >> > I think that a good migration guide is what we need here, and as Dmitr= y >> > and Ferenc said, much progress has been made there. >> > >> > I think we'd all welcome a new edition of the Sara book, but it happen= s >> > that the main people who work on PHP internals aren't exactly the book >> > authoring types... We'd need others to step in and contribute, perhap= s >> > turn that migration doc into something better. >> > >> >> I really liked what Julien, Anthony and Nikita did with >> http://www.phpinternalsbook.com/ I think it would be pretty awesome if w= e >> could have talented people like them continue working on documenting the >> current and upcoming internal "api" (preferably under the php.net >> umbrella, >> but ofc. it is their decision as the content creators). >> > > I assume that we'll update our content to use the APIs implemented in PHP > next, or rather have a separate version using those APIs. But doing that > kind of work only makes sense once PHP next is released or at least close > to a release. Especially given the complaints of some parties regarding t= he > current API, I expect that it may still undergo non-trivial changes befor= e > we get to a release. > > For now I think that the migration guide that is currently in progress, > should be sufficient for extension authors familiar with the current API = to > make their extensions phpng compatible. Documentation targeting new > extension authors (like sara's book or ours) is not critical at this time > and writing it now is not worthwhile, because the API is not frozen. > > Nikita > absolutely! --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --001a11c21eda7c5ffb04ff01db93--