Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76100 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47104 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2014 08:32:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2014 08:32:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain hoa-project.net from 95.130.10.56 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 95.130.10.56 host1.ip6-networks.net Received: from [95.130.10.56] ([95.130.10.56:50312] helo=host1.ip6-networks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8A/E8-29475-42612D35 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 04:32:36 -0400 Received: from host1.ip6-networks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by host1.ip6-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED7260ADD for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:32:38 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=hoa-project.net; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=dkim; bh= hz8SMc47nSJDjaN4zSvztjjHjNUFKdeg9JOusgsr4xM=; b=J16N5vuXT9m5t0lq X7Y75JKVkV64ESEHWxvzmAO19uBV+EyWG+bi+FXy6Jh4CP3vdwQAbzDep6gH0h8s HijVOpqVkQlZqfzC7kNRnvxXFYoVg9NlwGkI3ypyWTcXswXhiOSBWaqiWFIc1H/k xRedkOH+3tH/9MECOGwmq4K4z7g= Received: from Hwhost2.local (204-64.4-85.cust.bluewin.ch [85.4.64.204]) by host1.ip6-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8B22609C0 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:32:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53D21623.9020902@hoa-project.net> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:32:35 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <53CFB2CD.5050703@hoa-project.net> <53D0062A.20905@gmail.com> <3D49DA70-E726-439B-94E7-F8888358C04D@benramsey.com> <53D0FC76.3080604@hoa-project.net> <53D10CE8.8090500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53D10CE8.8090500@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Language Specification From: ivan.enderlin@hoa-project.net ("Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa") On 24/07/2014 15:40, Rowan Collins wrote: > Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote (on 24/07/2014): >> Taking the example of XML, CSS, HTML, ECMAScript or other languages >> (maybe the JVM, I don't know exactly), there is version numbers for >> the specification, that are different of the version numbers of the >> implementations. Even more, the version of the implementations is >> most of the time unknown (what is the version of SpiderMonkey or V8 >> for ECMAScript x? We don't really know). > > I think this only really matters if it's likely that the Zend > implementation diverges from the specification, such as by a feature > being implemented in HHVM and agreed to be standard, but no release of > Zend produced supporting that feature. And that in turn implies a > separate stewardship and decision-making process for the > implementation and the specification, which would be a major change in > process. Or if an implementation has a bug, which will be the most common usecase I think, no? -- Ivan Enderlin Developer of Hoa http://hoa-project.net/ PhD. student at DISC/Femto-ST (Vesontio) and INRIA (Cassis) http://disc.univ-fcomte.fr/ and http://www.inria.fr/ Member of HTML and WebApps Working Group of W3C http://w3.org/