Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76088 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5995 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2014 04:53:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2014 04:53:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.53 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.53 mail-qa0-f53.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.53] ([209.85.216.53:48171] helo=mail-qa0-f53.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 35/31-29475-DA2E1D35 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 00:53:01 -0400 Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id v10so3937460qac.26 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:53:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8HiL1Ng/0Zblcg4uTL/hWsCUDRgXBC1js6vvb72crPw=; b=VVDTl5iOASplZzX4CbK+GBZGrrx8ZUfL6fUWPs4FzKrlsFdnQKipUwaeKG+0v8a8A/ SB+n/jY4mmIw7IqUtb+5jH26jNFLZyBj20s1RC9+eDRXvgCCac0aHuEzI7RL+91lppU/ WeEKTyqGjZaR+tBXcjdbJ6NG8lpdJ/VPT6awbssOtqhKvNI+4LZks9mT/ca5MnsJ6I/o 3LYwQeHMd+UtnuINjS+g/jXz7LyluNsCxDo1ZBVILM6lyM36YiK0xhJ1QzNSwW59pb3X CCfU8eIASpmCx+RXM6/gX6qge3vy4ZXCvJxevB1p1oYSRLYQnznCUmRb1EabWrlclFPJ LEJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.87.75 with SMTP id q69mr22037684qgd.94.1406263983962; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.24.54 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:53:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:53:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: Kris Craig Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki , Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Move phpng to master From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Kris Craig wrote: >> While this is a major change to the language implementation, it does not > actually affect end users in any meaningful way except for the positive > =E2=80=98side effect=E2=80=99 of their apps running faster. So while we = believe that > technically a 50%+1 vote should suffice, we hope to get well over 2/3. 2/3 is required, there is no doubt about it. That being said, I think we should block this RFC as it is by far one of the poorest one from a content point of view (referring to the RFC itself here). phpng is a huge change, or better said a huge set of huge changes. Even the php-next version number RFC has more details that this one. This is disturbing. The various document should be linked or merged (docs relevant directly to this rfc should be merged, link to https://wiki.php.net/phpng-upgrading is missing too. I can help with these steps next week. Cheers, --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org