Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76057 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28347 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2014 20:29:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jul 2014 20:29:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.43 mail-wg0-f43.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.43] ([74.125.82.43:64982] helo=mail-wg0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9A/ED-55539-7BC61D35 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:29:44 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l18so3163240wgh.2 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:29:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4OLxWMtT3P/owv8epPX/2ybkQ0GhvYfrdEG7pDuW4rw=; b=SsyBODfqJfRUY5c/nzfDjO9JDu0tJEHjRxy8GWlzzH+voIHGsVRavz5esBsDiodQLZ itUJyLLxE3kUiYcBuGOHmiPCcH5ri55VP1OUTNEe5h/rYKc8nYvlyR07vP5V1R97olnC v3M/iYwSnx32BjGnOC4UKovgHhbvANdvGBqWOz6vTwzg3YGimel3zyX6Wb4NeNgW9xqY o698AWxTgyNr89uvf60ojUbmPU2BolkYwisKZGNvZaJxSwWv6a87uW3wq6jHbQzbBW5B 7BUrqeQFmJtbyqUw8TRayb7zSvRp1rwRILY+eyVW26GBuiLi5xQoM9mYYdJ11xrjcObG 1aNw== X-Received: by 10.180.21.208 with SMTP id x16mr15589080wie.73.1406233785187; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cpc19-brig17-2-0-cust25.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [81.101.201.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id du6sm26847281wib.6.2014.07.24.13.29.44 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53D16CB1.2090304@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:29:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <53CFB2CD.5050703@hoa-project.net> <53D0062A.20905@gmail.com> <3D49DA70-E726-439B-94E7-F8888358C04D@benramsey.com> <53D0FC76.3080604@hoa-project.net> <53D10CE8.8090500@gmail.com> <4212D04D-0241-4887-A9DF-180958A31926@ajf.me> <53D11BBF.7040306@gmail.com> <53D15E99.4060803@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Language Specification From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 24/07/2014 21:12, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I don't recall if it was === or 'is', but regardless, the meaning was > absolutely 'Zend is PHP' (as in everything Zend does is PHP), and not 'PHP > is Zend'. Regardless, since it was clearly misunderstood by many people we > stopped using it :) See also the German national anthem, in which "Deutschland ueber alles" was intended to mean "consider German unification above your local power", not "Germany should rule the world", although it's no stretch to assume that Hitler favoured the latter interpretation. The current anthem consists only of the less easily reinterpreted third verse. Damn, Godwin's Law, sorry all! :( -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]