Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76052 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22336 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2014 20:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jul 2014 20:23:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.169 mail-vc0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.169] ([209.85.220.169:41007] helo=mail-vc0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 40/AC-55539-B3B61D35 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:23:23 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hu12so5969781vcb.14 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:23:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=BYJsHZrLg0sZV688vYAlTcdJfVewzgNugTtOBx/jVW4=; b=Luna7GY0Ld43xDTGvUtRFhwBrgVpZk8qukudUY3jj/sthOyu4mJqhsrG+cQ5mXAcov UyMkeHsCdLSvl5Q27sWFDL0Va72aLo9dTB4iu2HF0VFLf+z/8BenK6i5NRfonUsOech3 6QvhHYqPkTZgML+fKKwuR2Cua1IMYmqV2G5NgAjAZpuds6vXeP93hHJsHlLJA0+LTOdh 2ton+IVD3IGZoqBYz8uI0Wt0xMLayN64hHfi2P2Z+tfrxWztWtY4KsixCq1UQKpiStye R+Il4WqlVh7zIoqzOEUJ/ne1HDlhGzw6SuhqLdv7spCbf3rmlBZ/KiiRlHxHjYdM3V6n owtw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkR8xlcq6zVISIpwJEaksqPpxTB55fWHwA6vRtcn4aIMA6VmH1sALGh1WX5mBrkImP+aedUi/Iq7UhcrUgWgCm1ZfycZrQqzn9aTWhGFkeHnH7rLOb7SZgRp79pzNMz39qYPJdD X-Received: by 10.53.1.231 with SMTP id bj7mr13301799vdd.49.1406233404872; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:23:24 -0700 (PDT) References: <53CFB2CD.5050703@hoa-project.net> <53D0062A.20905@gmail.com> <3D49DA70-E726-439B-94E7-F8888358C04D@benramsey.com> <53D0FC76.3080604@hoa-project.net> <53D10CE8.8090500@gmail.com> <4212D04D-0241-4887-A9DF-180958A31926@ajf.me> <53D11BBF.7040306@gmail.com> <53D15E99.4060803@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFY3vDGa06Wf4YlYcrjQD8RP5OGegILVfwWAjW0sLkBPmFsVQFUbct5AfLo/TkCBlo/RAJa+mQ0AXJHOakB86Dp9AIpiLSyAkZ3AasCWk3tswJaGscfm8+oTaA= Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 23:23:24 +0300 Message-ID: <87fdfd1a00dcad32843001d02ee10108@mail.gmail.com> To: Andrea Faulds Cc: Sara Golemon , Rowan Collins , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP Language Specification From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) CPython is the name of the implementation, but python.org offers you to download Python, not CPython. CPython is an internal name kind of like php-src (more or less). In fact, as an average end user, you'd not know about CPython at all. Jython, JyJy, etc. - don't call themselves 'Python', they're implementations of the Python language. Zeev > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea Faulds [mailto:ajf@ajf.me] > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:19 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: Sara Golemon; Rowan Collins; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Language Specification > > > On 24 Jul 2014, at 21:12, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > Other opensource languages that have multiple implementations, still > > have the 'official' release with the original name, while other > > implementations have separate, different names that implement 'the XYZ > > language' or 'the ABC spec'. > > > > E.g., there's Jython, Cython, PyPy - but the original Python is still > > Python. > > Python might be a poor example. The "original Python" is called CPython. > > In technical discussions it would be very useful to have a proper name for the > vanilla implementation, even though most people are going to call it PHP > anyway. > -- > Andrea Faulds > http://ajf.me/ > > >