Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:76050 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19371 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2014 20:20:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jul 2014 20:20:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.207 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.207 imap2-2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.207] ([192.64.116.207:38882] helo=imap2-2.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 77/FB-55539-7AA61D35 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:20:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D468C007D; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:20:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap2.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rIuzmXYQjI70; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:20:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.15] (unknown [90.210.122.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D24848C0075; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:20:52 +0100 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <4623F03E-4312-4602-B40C-04EDC7399DDC@ajf.me> References: <53CFB2CD.5050703@hoa-project.net> <53D0062A.20905@gmail.com> <3D49DA70-E726-439B-94E7-F8888358C04D@benramsey.com> <53D0FC76.3080604@hoa-project.net> <53D10CE8.8090500@gmail.com> <4212D04D-0241-4887-A9DF-180958A31926@ajf.me> <5F3C24CC-B201-41E7-AB6E-610AA5B85568@ajf.me> To: Zeev Suraski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Language Specification From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) On 24 Jul 2014, at 21:18, Zeev Suraski wrote: > No, there's no ambiguity at all - 'PHP' is the implementation, as it > always has been. 'PHP language specification' or 'PHP spec' for short = is > the specification. Absolutely no ambiguity. So PHP is variously the language (as in PHP language specification) and = an implementation (as in PHP). There is definitely an ambiguity. We need to be able to distinguish = between PHP (the language/specification) and PHP (the implementation). >> You know, the git repository is called php-src. Why don't we call the >> implementation php-src? >=20 > Well, one reason is that it would be a horrible, horrible name = (imagine us > "Happy to announce php-src 5.6!", come on). But another is there's = really > absolutely no reason to change the name of PHP to anything at all. = There > would be the PHP spec, and there would be PHP. What does PHP mean here? The language? The vanilla implementation? -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/