Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75952 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30590 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2014 12:18:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2014 12:18:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.177 mail-vc0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.177] ([209.85.220.177:38353] helo=mail-vc0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EF/F9-21666-A18AFC35 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:18:36 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hy4so1927870vcb.8 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:18:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TufOWgDK3LwyZZ8GbNOv/zBNhbceNctcDV7esJtffxk=; b=MHk0PVU+vZHBljYmO44McNdqkbB2Nh+MEuT7kwmLb6vP8q0aYWskBuroaJhCN96Nka Zi+Y4wPM5PEuveCEcH8oKkqsCIrSBQ1ZMj6icPA+TnyODTMs+3Yof5yyeTT0IJYFTXlR pwDHp0G97MyUdvTwkv+fqu7K0Rh0ulW6MEAK0oDl2VJFLrMh+TNJ/SGO+4dG6mXkqAi9 E8bUOnRNpYaG5cxkDTL5J6UwD4fiWeg9eUzw4EnLyTeRQxqEikFerAKgD6oYZug01flX /MCDSqZ0eJsy2UcVPxqlknSIkIGZxqpfh3sqJGuhZ0UO+DodUJdoMNIetgVG38N/7efZ 0XjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmAozvtVnKnm/cBndJw91RqoGlHh7r6mHlzs6We5xPxVXWDv8ZYZVrJlSPI7H3zRMesvzvIpn/lL06wxO0V8YWUPGCRmxtiGeZgkFeY+7INy78r2zXs7gydjtksTvavSA0FOEfz X-Received: by 10.53.1.231 with SMTP id bj7mr1102044vdd.49.1406117913650; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:18:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <53CF9467.4030508@php.net> <2B.F8.21666.F53AFC35@pb1.pair.com> In-Reply-To: <2B.F8.21666.F53AFC35@pb1.pair.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFY3vDGa06Wf4YlYcrjQD8RP5OGegILVfwWAQfrReABtTp4BgG8HqPBnGb70JA= Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:18:33 +0300 Message-ID: <5205de4d39f1c1e1bdc2050ad19a5702@mail.gmail.com> To: Pascal Chevrel , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP Group, what is it? (was Re:PHP Language Specification) From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Pascal Chevrel [mailto:pascal.chevrel@free.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 2:58 PM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Group, what is it? (was Re:PHP Language > Specification) > > Could somebody that was in the project 15 years ago explain us what was > the > idea, duties and responsabilities that this group was supposed to have? That group is simply the key people who created the project some 15+, or rather almost 20 years ago. It's mostly defunct as a governing body at this point, with practically all decisions happening here on internals@; It's still there as, and it's theoretically still the group that holds the copyright and the right to change fundamental things like the license, although in practice, this too will happen through RFCs if it ever does, most probably. I'd say its main goal today is to be a last line of defense in case of a hostile attempt of Perl activists to take over internals@ :) Ideally we don't need to defer anything to this group, and handle mostly everything in RFCs. BTW, the Authors list could definitely use some updates, and IIRC, Ferenc actually worked on that recently for 5.6.0. Zeev