Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75949 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25693 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2014 11:58:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2014 11:58:25 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 78.192.130.122 jav75-2-78-192-130-122.fbxo.proxad.net Received: from [78.192.130.122] ([78.192.130.122:6203] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2B/F8-21666-F53AFC35 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:58:24 -0400 Message-ID: <2B.F8.21666.F53AFC35@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:58:20 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <53CF9467.4030508@php.net> In-Reply-To: <53CF9467.4030508@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Posted-By: 78.192.130.122 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Group, what is it? (was Re:PHP Language Specification) From: pascal.chevrel@free.fr (Pascal Chevrel) Le 23/07/2014 12:54, Sebastian Bergmann a écrit : > On 07/23/2014 12:25 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote: >> Myself I think it’d be best if the PHP Group runs it. > > And who exactly is the PHP Group? Most of the people listed in the > credits as "The PHP Group" have not contributed in years. > > I agree, though, that the PHP project should own the language > specification effort. Hi, What is the process to get this list updated and actually useful? I looked at the page (http://php.net/credits.php) and was surprised not to see listed the people that seem to me to be the people actually maintaining and making the language progress in the last years. Some of the biggest committers in the last 4 years are not credited at all (Nikita Popov, Joe Watkins, Anatol Belski...), which is abnormal IMO. It's not clear to me either who the PHP Group is compared to say the PHP authors section. What is their role? How do they help the project as a group? Do they meet or did they meet in the past? If almost all of them haven't been involved in the project for years, why are they listed? Interestingly, a colleague of mine is listed as one of the members of the PHP Group and I didn't know. I am pretty sure he hasn't been involved in PHP for like, 10 years :D. Could somebody that was in the project 15 years ago explain us what was the idea, duties and responsabilities that this group was supposed to have? Regards, Pascal