Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75900 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13374 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2014 22:22:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jul 2014 22:22:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.220.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.45 mail-pa0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.45] ([209.85.220.45:39947] helo=mail-pa0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BF/E5-21666-B04EEC35 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:22:03 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id eu11so384898pac.18 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:22:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/tlzMqlB167ubPudRtDFJBdRRRDvLPHBVSVNuwvHdsE=; b=TH8ICgsi0KGpO+5IXlEOZatY9Qlxk89l+5b/E3UEYGrnyttKvuf0HmwSzxC96cojP8 rOrX1O8Y9eBIheQmrS0gTyjp/DKh1ibqBjitFb80ImH2GIy3HnKDEoE+lys0eWQuaMXw PjVOF5vG41s7YU2FgSDy44fIuHVLFZIyWvB8/aUBHGiGD6SC/COnn/QdsebxVGIwqveI JGNM1OVEkrHN568AOa9ARihjpn2spsDzq5pf+nGG3pMtG2ZmjtIOU5xkThHEh2m24h7h rDiztsbzBLUKz4TM1AfYuE4g/Si0D4LjjGxURqE4kZE1BHJ+y8SwxtAWlzRspNPFADRK xfdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnF2mezi1JMgr5wC0QOgSXNXsFBoobITSDNsPqyOp1fpN5OndbNapjEh57Ot5kqxEADBvLX MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.57.140 with SMTP id i12mr26888597pbq.44.1406067721345; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.70.33.208 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:22:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [173.252.71.189] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:22:01 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Wokqs8oG5yFYg9IvyK6jxJxY7qo Message-ID: To: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: PHP Language Specification From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > This document is meant for PHP, and PHP should be the steward of it > going forward, so we (as in PHP) should start looking at good ways to > keep it up to date and revise it over time. > Some folks in IRC asked for clarification of this point. FB isn't looking to just throw this over wall saying "HERE'S THE FINAL DOCUMENT, HAVE A NICE DAY, GOOD BYE!". What we're planning to release next week is more like a pre-1.0 draft which will probably need a lot of work before anyone is willing to call it final, and of course the document will need to be updated over time to reflect changes in the language's syntax (e.g. return typehint rfc). We're happy to setup the framework for curating that document (probably as a github project), but don't want to be all controlling with it, so if the PHP Group as an organization wants to own it and manage updates to it over time, all the better. If that means FB sets it up then hands it over, that's an option too. This is the discussion I'd like to start now, so that we can work out a strategy for what that looks like. If folks have comments on the one chapter I uploaded, I'd say start with emails to the list or me directly and I'll pass them on. That should be considered a short-term solution though. Ideally we'll have something in a collaborative format next week that folks with existing karma can contribute to more directly. -Sara