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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Language Specification
From: rican7@gmail.com (rican7)

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Sara, I can't even begin to thank you and your team enough for this. This
is incredibly huge.

You're right, a spec has become even more important with new engines and
implementations like PHPNG and HHVM in the works. I wondered if this were
to ever happen. It never seemed like anyone in the PHP community wanted to
spearhead this kind of work (for good reason, its difficult and a huge task
to undertake).

Thank you so much! Again, this is huge!

- Trevor


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net> wrote:

> Just announced something at OSCON that's probably going to get a lot
> of folks talking and making assumptions, so before things get out of
> hand, I want to provide some context.
>
> We (As in PHP) have been talking about making a spec for the PHP
> language for a LONG time.  With PHPNG around the corner, the need for
> a formal spec is even more important so that we can reliably ensure
> that PHP.Next matches PHP 5.6's behavior as much as possible.
> Meanwhile, other implementations of PHP (like HHVM) should be as spec
> compliant as possible so that we don't see the language bifurcate.
>
> To that end, we (as in Facebook), have been putting together a formal
> language spec for PHP (using PHP 5.6 as the source of truth) along
> with an additional conformance test suite (which compliments
> Zend/tests).  We've talked to some engine folks along the way to get
> feedback and make version 1 as good as it can be, and we're really
> close to releasing it (aiming for next week).  Note that this document
> only covers the language syntax and not the standard runtime library.
>
> This document is meant for PHP, and PHP should be the steward of it
> going forward, so we (as in PHP) should start looking at good ways to
> keep it up to date and revise it over time.  As a sneak-peak, uploaded
> a very small section so that you get an idea for what the
> document looks like overall.
>
> http://dl.hhvm.com/resources/PHPSpec-SneakPeak.pdf
>
> Tons of love,
> -Sara
>
> P.S. - Apologies if you got this twice.  But the version I sent with an
> attachment looks like it got stripped by the list server.
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