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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP
From: phoenix@jonstirling.co.uk (Jonny Stirling)

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Maybe then an option should be added to vote "not now" or similar. You're
forcing people into a decision for this or that when some may not wish for
the decision to be made right now, and without the ability to abstain from
either option.

Neither of you are going to change your minds anyway, and since it's your
choice, all I can do is make the points now in hopes that they'll make
sense down the line.

The reason for the provided post being 5.7 is because it wasn't changed
when it really should have been and somebody took it to be literally
without enough research. Fix the cause, not the effect, update the version
file to be show that it's the ng dev branch.

P.s. no complaining when the bike-shedding on this topic returns in a few
years ;)

Jonny.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:

> > From: Andrea Faulds [mailto:ajf@ajf.me]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:56 PM
> > To: Rowan Collins
> > Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP
> >
> > Maybe if I have some time I'll try to restructure the RFC.
>
> Please don't.
>
> I think the way it's laid out right now makes sense.  Let's not try to
> sweep this under the carpet - we two mutually exclusive options and we
> need to decide between them.
>
> We agreed on a certain format, we agreed that each option will have its
> own section and that its proponents will write the best possible case for
> it - rebuttal or otherwise.  Let's stick with this decision and move
> forward.
>
> To those who are saying 'let's bury it for now', I absolutely think we
> should go all the way and be done with it.  In fact, had Andrea not bring
> it up a few weeks ago, I'd be bringing it up shortly after the PHPNG RFC.
> This has been a lingering question for a long time, and personally, I'm
> fed up with having to write 'PHP.NEXT', '.1', '.2', '6/7' and all sorts of
> other politically-correct version numbers.  I think those who write 'PHP
> 6' or alternatively 'PHP 7' are being unfair until a decision has been
> taken.
>
> We've invested heavily in this in terms of discussion, we're not waiting
> for any additional data points and delaying the decision will do nothing
> but waste additional time in the future.
>
> Let's take a decision and be done with it.
>
> Zeev
>
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