Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75864 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16144 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2014 14:48:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jul 2014 14:48:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.169 mail-vc0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.169] ([209.85.220.169:32778] helo=mail-vc0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9D/46-21666-AA97EC35 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:48:10 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hu12so15395271vcb.28 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:48:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=iZ713AB8Z5hmTLTTYdXyQAL6pIb8WO4kniFwT2g9niY=; b=SQpHLuSp33LEoe3LoBlDM7jnD9aaHpT661Dend7W8Fe5b/NdPmfNrZmm3789xocQwi fnJUldOyNrXpI0iIfdmn/xZjEkkj2fkjbQOfTJxUGpIpLbv4n/EFoYpx8Uf+GT2kVOW/ oOwstbnKBdLiVbIWZMucvq8JWbVpZ+U0MlWHpKqy8cH/9VBoY7pJaZQmxZwFJyX1EQYz Coj7NTZgS5M6bCK4LDUUWb8ftOoslu3ubnQlZGegqvwejMfs1iwlVpWqcU01vzVhZI3K hvwyxO45f83QrRqqHW+jgCt5kBt5jnaMmpaj/9V3ReQywnQd653cwWl6HPsUw8mKHEzo cYrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk6VHhMCxhVICPd6rV9iZneDCl8iZDuMqLj880YoQoEWQaRV8kSl4mmiCRgqyY/npaVoYhA+tDEqMVwvcNpQ4rTaoO1C1AX+VJ1K/t0ggdy6Ab4ZGjxxXKOQD1nGbgNh1gm5me6 X-Received: by 10.53.1.231 with SMTP id bj7mr34281872vdd.49.1406040485392; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:48:05 -0700 (PDT) References: <84603C6F-F984-4F73-892A-4416391E4769@ajf.me> <53CE66D4.2060103@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJLEP/c3uJc+QUSn+XVIg2W/Ho8NgMQcjoQAXaFMI4CRiup5Jp+6ogg Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:48:04 +0300 Message-ID: <76fe76cab9ff261f8ef8950f79fb6740@mail.gmail.com> To: Andrea Faulds , Rowan Collins Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > From: Andrea Faulds [mailto:ajf@ajf.me] > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:56 PM > To: Rowan Collins > Cc: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP > > Maybe if I have some time I'll try to restructure the RFC. Please don't. I think the way it's laid out right now makes sense. Let's not try to sweep this under the carpet - we two mutually exclusive options and we need to decide between them. We agreed on a certain format, we agreed that each option will have its own section and that its proponents will write the best possible case for it - rebuttal or otherwise. Let's stick with this decision and move forward. To those who are saying 'let's bury it for now', I absolutely think we should go all the way and be done with it. In fact, had Andrea not bring it up a few weeks ago, I'd be bringing it up shortly after the PHPNG RFC. This has been a lingering question for a long time, and personally, I'm fed up with having to write 'PHP.NEXT', '.1', '.2', '6/7' and all sorts of other politically-correct version numbers. I think those who write 'PHP 6' or alternatively 'PHP 7' are being unfair until a decision has been taken. We've invested heavily in this in terms of discussion, we're not waiting for any additional data points and delaying the decision will do nothing but waste additional time in the future. Let's take a decision and be done with it. Zeev