Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75857 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3837 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2014 14:27:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jul 2014 14:27:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.53 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.53 mail-qa0-f53.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.53] ([209.85.216.53:43755] helo=mail-qa0-f53.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 24/83-21666-0D47EC35 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 10:27:30 -0400 Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id v10so6538543qac.40 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:27:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RrThgWzEek6nQ4IRKTgmBxdLSDzG+82sqKZoc82egh4=; b=WSkPMbanxfRwo/5IP20R0TxGwtFvNTdliynxrpTbu7O4OzJJmPN/SzsrmGzYkyebAF DsSex0NHHVbYofJIQMsC31Ynf1ByswtCN6h/0bHJr5lLefR443TSwDLEeek32c5T2BQ/ kRYMZYjYqZ+dMFfyXHJ7O3UWecBZN81cv2Fqr2dUb+WooLFaceh+RdLjKN6C7w0yu56Y KgoW2PISwIUACAyBOZox75a6MGnyuLttuuLkc3vUD3qomIU3qUDXW9s2p+oJyHYfY7m0 AEfePC6J0CmW2doy3KXW5u6qLmfqWLznnmiipUpdA1iQO8njlXkDjIf+qgH5WT6QF3/B WCog== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.130.5 with SMTP id q5mr55164876qas.72.1406039245758; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.102.111 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:27:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53CE70EC.5@beccati.com> References: <53CE70EC.5@beccati.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:27:25 +0200 Message-ID: To: Matteo Beccati Cc: Derick Rethans , Etienne Kneuss , Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2c452c8b1a104fec90538 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Move phpng to master From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --001a11c2c452c8b1a104fec90538 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Matteo Beccati wrote: > On 22/07/2014 15:37, Derick Rethans wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Etienne Kneuss wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> > >>> Once the RFC is approved (I hope) > >> > >> Before the merge RFC can be considered for voting, I think it is > >> critical that you provide a comprehensive migration guide highlighting > >> the changes required from core developers. This means > >> https://wiki.php.net/phpng-upgrading should be completed to reflect > >> all changes. > >> > >> It is only then that we can vote with knowledge of how much this big > >> patch affects the codebase. > > > > *this* is something I very much would like to see too. > > I agree. > > It might sound silly, but it would also be interesting to know what > could be the effect of phpng on the potential ideas for php6/7 from > https://wiki.php.net/ideas/php6 (if any). > > For most of them it's pretty clear that there's isn't an overlap, but > how about unicode support? Its implementation might undo or reduce some > of the performance gains obtained in phpng. Or, if you put it the other > way around: if we merge phpng to master it might not be acceptable to > think about adding utf8 support. > One can make wishlists, but I don't think we have any people who is familiar with the area and willing to work for this to happen(unfortunately). Of course such a person/group of people can step up and would be welcome to do so, but I see no point of trying to feature box a release without having anybody actually working towards those goals. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --001a11c2c452c8b1a104fec90538--