Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75843 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82196 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2014 13:07:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jul 2014 13:07:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.212.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.181 mail-wi0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.181] ([209.85.212.181:41048] helo=mail-wi0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 93/61-09870-5026EC35 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:07:18 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id bs8so383352wib.8 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:07:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:message-id:cc:from:subject :date:to; bh=icatz+3NZgcXWNVQMQ/ea/VOg718JFZAEPpR81WckL8=; b=lne90f/+KbDiACF5AtOy4UaNB4XgWnDMQYLUnPW7fFc0mgMlw++h5Gl1AlzQjek/fz JaVD3nd/uMlKwNAfbVPuLzVibQ/K5KuQ11oGhg7F5LyS0o9exvoguBdgZphWreybN1Eq vSK1WMg+0rmII5icOaNBWLptIGinRfyix2qDigVmVMoy2W6K70GFmTERDyELwjZ+Wh6Z Gh38oGFC/gRQZwVn3WJvWR+XfX3NxRUM/lAyumDH24T8hV+g8uaOjvCzl5Mh5+eFNxBW vxkf7rxqxoA611yxFB4r7cwMApd0pzcyUXsA2PifPngIv13kkwTjrL5Y+6YJvxSm2LiG 8T6w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmdEW4UTmiwz46IvrSBy78/zpuDFUf19HdnKqLiBtv87TMWEXAUsJ7CKrcE5pFJOlcCp6S9mVdO6DMYAzYFRkLU9pSkBbaatp4OUGeNfSS+s65TIUrVEszQ03HhkCQluBw1870o X-Received: by 10.181.13.112 with SMTP id ex16mr14827456wid.58.1406034434263; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.2.78] (il-gw1.zend.com. [212.199.177.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cx5sm918738wjb.8.2014.07.22.06.07.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:07:13 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-ID: Cc: PHP internals X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:07:10 +0300 To: Ferenc Kovacs Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Move phpng to master From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) On 22 =D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9C 2014, at 15:17, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > Hi Zeev, >=20 > The discussion seems to be sidetracked by the topic on when should we rele= ase PHP-NEXT and what else should it contains. > Could we agree to put that aside for now, and agree to discuss this later,= after we managed to have a consensus on merging phpng to master? > I think that it is an important question, but not having phpng in master b= lock the other features/changes as well, and we don't have to decide about t= he roadmap/features for PHP-NEXT right now. > Thanks for your understanding! I wholeheartedly agree with you, we absolutely can postpone it - the RFC do= esn't deal with that actually. Once the RFC is approved (I hope), I think w= e'd then need to discuss fairly quickly what we aim for - a release sometime= next year or later. Until that happens, I think we should make no assumpti= ons on 5.7 (which is what started the timeline discussion) - one way or the o= ther. Zeev=