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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:53:16 +0100
Reply-To: Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net>
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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RC1
From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger)

Hello Zeev,

Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 7:20:47 PM, you wrote:

> Hey,

> As you must have realized Andi and I have resolved some of the key 
> remaining issues for PHP 5 (and we still are).
> Due to fact that some of these changes have been pretty big changes we 
> suggest to turn the RC1 we wanted to release at the end of January to a 
> beta 4 by the end of next week.
> If everything goes smoothly after that, we think RC1 should follow two 
> weeks later.

That makes no sense. We still have a lot of open issues so we should calm
down a bit and care for creating a working thing instead for the earliest
time we could deliver.

> Also, Dmitry has pretty much finished his work on doing a 
> major rewrite of the SOAP extension. We think it would be cool to include 
> it in Beta 4 (it will be feature-frozen by that time) and then go for 
> inclusion in PHP 5.

> A couple of issues we'd like to decide onbefore we go out with beta 4 are:

> (a) Failure return value of FETCH_RESOURCE and the default return value - 
> should we change it to be FALSE?  Today it's NULL, which is inconsistent 
> with most of the functions in PHP which return FALSE on failure.  The 
> downside is that changing it may break scripts that check the return value
> with === or !==

In several places you must now do:

$res = func();
if ($res !== NULL && $res !== false) ...

plus you have to read lots of documentation when to use what.
So i am all for making it a bit consistent. Also most ppl used !== false
because most ppl didn't knew the return NULL for out ouf boundaries. So
i see nothing to care about what we'd loose.

> (b) Default inclusion of the SOAP extension

+1 prbably not default enabled for 5.0 and we need to change to
php_error_docref() and have a look on ZTS which is stupidly solved
right now (many unneccesary TSRMLS_FETCH()).



-- 
Best regards,
 Marcus                            mailto:helly@php.net