Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75789 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25390 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2014 13:06:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jul 2014 13:06:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.220.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.182 mail-vc0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.182] ([209.85.220.182:39107] helo=mail-vc0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F9/64-01457-0501DC35 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:06:25 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hy4so11942470vcb.41 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 06:06:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=RaxBxWH7Xgbyo89cm9T/uxU+RQese8xyyktKEcF7rig=; b=OKBtSU0yYekJfxbjqiwseZrtfRT39cJaZWhoyK22ja/GoQf1rzpWdI4I0/0X0ZMGg+ MXDgt3opmsf4c9LlMJd84sOOs5TZpKu8wL4Y9WXBO5yYDGrekNAIzmgSxZUn/nksslWR TCXSUKVOU6ZXO66QQ8q1mWenloK5BwPOqezYGiSoBv13qxYJH1+crGbJqvNDYwK8Yq2Z PYw+9w5tl1TgdpNdUkYnLz6wM9XhvtHtKO+syWE5tct3B+SVqJ4KhLHT64Zdq796GWPI 6MpvujfGBKmb91yYo93FRQ4jXcgBzSXZwTEYzZMLCRdIQBoPmk1qC7RgctTmZU2t8L6r c66A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl3DuJ6U7icMBpc/VpBjHozkKHofSHGO+apQXtioQAdbRzM5E4GCyfHiVbBeEiaLh/v/H6VRZfyx55lAuXmxFCI5TBOwuD9ewCuRoxH2caRkkFL5Q8dcvkn3oXz5bCYgv8jdl0J X-Received: by 10.220.68.140 with SMTP id v12mr28966051vci.13.1405947982161; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 06:06:22 -0700 (PDT) References: <405777E2-9B2C-426F-97D8-97CF6A9E63E8@ajf.me> In-Reply-To: <405777E2-9B2C-426F-97D8-97CF6A9E63E8@ajf.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQI8QOdx/Do9KUTbDGI5HWlFNEg77gKoeDSZAU3+f3qasZGrsA== Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:06:21 +0300 Message-ID: <7e9cdb1f72acc146fbbd9a3a5181531c@mail.gmail.com> To: Andrea Faulds , Nikita Popov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Move phpng to master From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea Faulds [mailto:ajf@ajf.me] > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 3:55 PM > To: Nikita Popov > Cc: Zeev Suraski; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Move phpng to master > > > I think we should have a PHP 5.7. There are plenty of things we can still do in > the 5.x series and it would be better to get them into PHP next year with 5.7 > rather than in two or three years with NEXT. I'm not sure where the 2-3 years is coming from, but again, I see no reason why we wouldn't be able to push .NEXT out within a year (if it's just phpng along then actually a lot less, but I'm allowing time for extra features we may want to put in). As a matter of fact, I don't think we can even entertain a 2-3 cycle, it will be way too late to market if we linger for so long. This is the assumption we should take IMHO, and only branch 5.7 (and more importantly, invest time in it) if it proves wrong. Zeev