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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:31:57 +0300
To: Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Move phpng to master
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

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On 21 =D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9C 2014, at 14:20, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.c=
om> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
>=20
> > All,
> >
> > As we=E2=80=99re getting closer to release 5.6.0, and given the very hig=
h level of
> > interest in phpng, I think it=E2=80=99s time for us to provide some clar=
ity
> > regarding what happens post 5.6.0.
> >
> > Dmitry and I wrote an RFC proposing that we merge phpng into master and
> > turn it into the basis of the next major version of PHP (name TBD).
> >
> > The RFC is available at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/phpng
> >
>=20
> There are actually two questions here:
> 1. Do we want to base the next major version on phpng?
> 2. Do we want to merge phpng into master?
>=20
> The latter is tied to the question whether or not we want to have a PHP 5.=
7
> release in the meantime. I'm not really sure whether or not that would be
> good, I would recommend opening a separate thread about that question.
>=20
> either way, master should/will contain the changes from phpng, otherwise w=
e would go against to our current merge everything upwards git workflow.

Agreed.

> but that doesn't really a problem for 5.7, we should just branch it from 5=
.6 (we wanted to do this for 5.6 and 5.5, but most of the changes in master a=
t that time was ok for a minor, so we branches from master instead of cherry=
picking everything.), as anything we want to backport from master to 5.7 wou=
ld require manual work to make it compatible with 5.7.

Agreed too - I just think we should first focus on getting .NEXT released as=
 soon as possible - and only branch away a 5.7 if we see it's taking too lon=
g.  It's not a decision we need to take today, but if we were to do it, bran=
ching it from 5.6 sounds like the right way to do it.

Zeev=

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